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Midknyte
Posted on Thursday, August 27, 2015 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://web.archive.org/web/20081208141626/http://w ww.cjnetworks.com/~westtek/ShocBroc.htm

Has anyone got one of these laying around?

Thanks!
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, August 27, 2015 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

American Sport Bike might have something similar. Aluminum vs. steel.

http://www.americansportbike.com/newcatalog/new6B. pdf

Not sure how old this is...it's not listed in the web store, but he has things that aren't listed. Probably best to call.
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Tombo
Posted on Thursday, August 27, 2015 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not sure it will actually lower your bike. The latest recall shock was shorter than the shock this mount was made for. Buell used a different front mount with the new shock that would have lowered the bike as much (or more) than the Westtek mount if used with the old shock. However, Buell did have a lowering mount of its own that was made for the newer shock. The other option is to buy an after market shock made for the old mount and use the newer mount (will need to check clearances).
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Midknyte
Posted on Thursday, August 27, 2015 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, that is good information to have. Maybe it's better that I haven't found one yet.

What I have been able to accomplish is to order another stock mount to hold in my hand and contemplate how to augment or have as an example if I can find someone to fab what I need...

Thanks for the info.

(Message edited by midknyte on August 27, 2015)
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Cupcake_mike
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tried this, interchanging mounts and shocks between the different styles, even had a westek...conclusion I came to was the older (longer shock) will only work with its mount or the westek and the newer (shorter) shock will only work with its mount.

Maybe they made westek's for both shocks, but I have ever only heard or seen them for the long shock.

This goes for the shocks with the springs inside the canister, I never tried with the very early exposed spring shock. I also didn't have access to any M2L pieces, so I can't speak on those, either.

(Message edited by Cupcake Mike on August 28, 2015)
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V74
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 05:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a westtek shock mount bracket lying around doing nothing but as stated earlier it will only work with the longer shock absorber.
Nice piece of kit though, was thinking of modifing it into an exhaust mount.
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Tombo
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 07:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike mentions the M2L and that is the mount you want if you have the newer style shock and want to lower your bike. I have seen one used on an S3 and it worked well. Finding an M2L mount is likely to be a challenge since there are not many of them out there.
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a mount that was sold to me as an M2l mount.

I will dig it out and post a picture.

Don't know if there is a part number or night.
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Mnscrounger
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I put an M2L shock on my S3 years ago when I was new to a bike this tall. ( Metric cruisers are usually around 28" seat height) It made big difference to me. I'm more comfortable with this bike now, so a taller seat height probably wouldn't bother me anymore. I don't recall changing anything other than the shock, and the belt tension though.

(Message edited by mnscrounger on August 28, 2015)
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A google search looped me back around to this posting.
http://badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/47623/3 27673.html

The M2 and M2L mounting brackets are the same, but... the M2L shock is longer, yielding the lowering there.

This pulls me back into the realm of feasibility as the shock was an OEM solution.
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Purpony
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I put the SCG XB forks on my X1 I installed a west tek link. Lowered the rear to much for my liking so I went back to my OEM mount. Since i have a penske i was able to lower the bike just enough to make it sit right and handle correctly.
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Tombo
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Midknyte, good thread. I had recalled it being the mount that was different but perhaps that is because of the Westtek lowering mount. I do know that the newer Buell mount is offset more than the Westtek (M2L or otherwise).
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Snowbees
Posted on Saturday, August 29, 2015 - 04:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

have this on my x1

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Midknyte
Posted on Saturday, August 29, 2015 - 07:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does the M2Low shock have a shorter working stroke to make up for its longer overall length (to help prevent bottoming out into the tail section)? I'm sure I don't weigh enough to worry about this. Just curious.
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Joe7bros
Posted on Saturday, August 29, 2015 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello everyone. I see a lot of posts about lowering tubers, but I'm having a problem following the conversation. So does anyone know, or is there a definitive thread, on the parts mix to lower a tuber. I have a 96 S2T that I would like to lower 1.5 to 2 inches. The bike has a 16.5 inch shock; it has had the shock (B024B) and swing arm recalls completed. Thanks
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Lakes
Posted on Saturday, August 29, 2015 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe not sure what your shock mount on that model like. i have an M2 2000, i broke the stock shock & got a new L shock, mounted it & bike about an inch lower at rear, i slipped fork tubes trough triple tree as far as i could but stock bar restricts that. but was very happy with result,
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Saturday, August 29, 2015 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the newer brackets and the m2l shock on my m2 and s2. They are about 3/8 inch longer but lower the rear by about an inch. I found both on eBay for about 150 dealer getting rid of old stock. Lance651 on eBay may have one but his prices are higher.
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Tombo
Posted on Saturday, August 29, 2015 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting mount Snowbees, did you make it?

Joe, a longer shock lowers the bike, but your 16.5 shock is an earlier shock and longer than the M2L shock and you would need a different front mount to make it work.
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Tony302
Posted on Saturday, August 29, 2015 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice I did not even think I could lower my x1 I am assuming these lowering brackets do not exist anymore..snowbees did you rig that bracket or did they actually sold that at one time??? Heck I sort of like that idea doesn't look so sterdy : )
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Joe7bros
Posted on Saturday, August 29, 2015 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tombo, Agreed, longer shock, with correct front mount, would lower bike; need to find the right front mount. While I admit to being confused following threads on this topic, I'm wondering if anyone has dimensions and/or the differences between the available front shock mounts. If we assign the stock mount a value of 0, is there a mount that is, for sake of argument, +1 or -1; 1 would be the consistent difference from 0, it could be .25 inch or whatever. I assume the front mount for a 14 inch shock would have a + value difference from the stock, 0 value, mount. So is that difference the same as the difference between the shocks, or some other value, especially as I have seen a 2:1 and a 3:1 ratio. Thanks again.
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Snowbees
Posted on Sunday, August 30, 2015 - 06:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes i made it Tombo, beefed up the welding a bit since the picture ,its been on my bike for 3 years now with no problems, easy to adjust
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Snowbees
Posted on Sunday, August 30, 2015 - 06:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The ratio is 2:1, so 1" extra shock length is 2" drop at the wheel height
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Tombo
Posted on Sunday, August 30, 2015 - 07:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe, the combination that would most likely work, if the S2 front mount is compatible with other tubers, would be an M2L shock with the later front mount. What I don't know is if there are any differences with the S2 shock mount vs. newer tubers (never compared them myself). While I would not expect there to be a difference, I have found other differences where you would expect things to be the same, such as with the front motor mount. I am sure someone on this Board has compared them (or swapped them).
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Dvc357
Posted on Sunday, August 30, 2015 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey brothers
I started a search on the M2 threads.
Anyone out there make one?
Or, Would anyone out there make and sell me one
For my 2002 M2L?
I'd really like to drop it an inch in the back.
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Tony302
Posted on Sunday, August 30, 2015 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Count me in with dvc357 I have a 99x1 anyone willing to make them??
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Joe7bros
Posted on Sunday, August 30, 2015 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I went and looked at my bike again, and it looks like it has an aluminum West Tek front shock mount; West Tek because it is smooth unlike what I see in pictures, and aluminum because there is no rust or corrosion; I'll verify tomorrow. And, if I'm getting it right, an M2L front shock mount, in combination with my 16.5 shock, should lower the rear of my bike. Anyone have the part number?
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Midknyte
Posted on Monday, August 31, 2015 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I just pulled the trigger on what might be the last unused M2 Low rear shock. No other dealer is admitting to having one at the moment... I have also sourced a front mount which I think will end up being identical to what's on the bike now, and an M2 Low sidestand.

With any luck this will come together sweetly. I'll be sure to post back if it works.
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H0gwash
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2015 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 28.5 inch inseam and wrestled with the lowering problem for the first couple months of my first Buell, a 2000 M2. I ended up using the previous owner's WP shocks coupled with the old style shock mount. I had a welder essentially move the shock mount hole 3/4" center to center. towards the rear of the bike.

This was done by tracing the outline of the shock on typing paper, then cutting off the existing hole and fabricating/welding another steel extender bit and using the traced drawing to figure out precisely how the bits should match up to be welded back on.

It dropped the bike about an inch or inch and a half, I didn't take measurements, I was working from mockups using a cheap scissor jack over the back wheel and a measuring tape, not precise. I am very happy with the results though. Coupled with a M2L seat I can nearly flat foot both sides.

I didn't want to drop further and have to relocate rear brake cylinder and possibly contact top of rear tire with top of rear wheel well if packed heavy for a camping trip.
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Dvc357
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2015 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone have a shop that would Fab one for us.
For a price certainly?
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Tony302
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2015 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hogwash have a pic I like to see how low it is please
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