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Vortec57
| Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 12:15 pm: |
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Anyone have any good tips on polishing out XB plastics? My 9R is about a high semi-gloss and over the winter I want to make it HIGH gloss. I've got a product called "plastic renew" by PC Racing, but not so sure I like it. The results are good, but it's only a temporary coating, and degreasers and wear will take it off. Anyone had any luck with rubbing compounds or automotive clear coat maybe? I'm planning on doing a bit of custom graphics painting on it, and then making it super shiny. Tips would be appreciated |
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Ducxl
| Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 12:45 pm: |
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The recommended product by BMC is Novus brand plastic polish.It comes in grades of 1 thru 3.I've found it an excellent product. |
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Tq_freak
| Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 03:03 pm: |
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I second the Novis system, works awesome. you really don't need step 3 unless you have some deep scratches. It works great on faded head lights and tail lights on your cars too. A ton cheaper then buying new ones |
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Barker
| Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 03:09 pm: |
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i like lemon pledge |
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Tq_freak
| Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 03:40 pm: |
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I like Windex better then Lemon pledge. Less after taste and it keeps me from streaking |
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Bads1
| Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 04:08 pm: |
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i like lemon pledge + I like Windex better = BAD |
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Gentleman_jon
| Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 04:48 pm: |
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Here is a previous thread on the subject that has a variety of suggestions. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/295158.html?1186362864 Typical of what makes Bad Web great!! |
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Vortec57
| Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 05:19 pm: |
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So the remaining question is if I polish it all out with the Novus stuff, can i paint over that, or should I sand and paint first before the novus? |
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Gentleman_jon
| Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 08:42 pm: |
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Sand and paint first. Please be aware that the "plastic" is a Dupont product called Surlyn . It requires paint that has additives that will allow it to stick, and to flex without cracking. I think Krylon Fusion might work if you want a rattle can, be sure to test first. Otherwise, your body shop guy probably has a plastic painting technique. |
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Molly_hatchet
| Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 09:01 pm: |
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painting plastic is tough...u should put a flexing agent in, but most motorcycle plastic is pretty rigid so u might get away without it....clearing stuff like that might not be a great idea it could yellow after a while...i use turtle wax ice on my bikes and its about as high gloss as u can get ..ive used paint sealants and about every kind of wax all with about the same results...i hear plexus is pretty nifty...try to stay away from compounds only use the rough stuff if u have to...if u are gonna paint it paint is all in the prep work if thats good the paint will be good. |
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Bads1
| Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 09:24 pm: |
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No flex agent in my paint. Prep is key.
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Etennuly
| Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 11:01 pm: |
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Don't use any polishing products on it if you are going to do any paint work. It can prevent adhesion and cause 'fish eyes'. Going for a super gloss? First sand it with about 800 grit, clean with proper cleaners, use plastics adhesion coat, do your paint work, figure out what clear coat will work with your paint, clear coat, then sand with 2000 grit and water, then hand buff your butt off with fine compounds. Or something like that. But really, if you plan any paint work do NOT use polishes first. Some silicone, and some polymer based ones will be really hard to remove before paint will adhere. |
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Molly_hatchet
| Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 01:19 am: |
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and that is some damn nice paint bads...curious what u painted it with and how its holding up. |
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Ducbsa
| Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 07:15 am: |
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Seeing that paint job made me think that a funny variation would be having a cutaway view on the airbox cover that showed gas sloshing around. Maybe too much $$$ to be real funny. |
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Bads1
| Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 08:19 am: |
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and that is some damn nice paint bads...curious what u painted it with and how its holding up. Molly its painted all in House paints. Its holding up without any problems at all. Getting ready to do another XBS real soon. Not quite as elaborate but more simple. |
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Diablobrian
| Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 02:08 pm: |
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House meaning House of Kolor, not as in latex house paint BTW (unless your painter is better than I thought Dana, and I was already impressed!) |
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Bads1
| Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 05:22 pm: |
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Yeah, Brian its House Of Kolor. Paint guys just call it House. Guess I've been hanging around the guy that painted my bike to much.LOL |
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Diablobrian
| Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 05:56 pm: |
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I know, just trying to help keep someone from making a bad assumption. House of Kolor (no mis-spelling) make possibly the highest quality paints on the market for everything from base Kolors, Kandy colors to poly-clears to high pigment pinstriping paint. |
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Molly_hatchet
| Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 06:25 pm: |
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spendy paint HOK is....i used sikkens for my undertail and windscreen...by the way dont put ur windscreen in the oven just lamp it...cracked the holy bejesus out of it..doh. (Message edited by molly_hatchet on October 28, 2007) |
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Etennuly
| Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 09:28 pm: |
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Yeah, Brian its House Of Kolor. Paint guys just call it House. Guess I've been hanging around the guy that painted my bike to much.LOL Was the lid off the thinner barrel too long?![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/dielaughing.gif) |
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Bads1
| Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 09:40 pm: |
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ROTFLMAO and you make me want to
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Jackherrer
| Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 06:07 pm: |
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3m makes a product called trizact which you can get at an autoparts store. i think it comes in 3000 and 4000 grit. I would think after using that, a good polishing compound and a buffing wheel could get you a high gloss. My friend was in avionics in the USMC and used those trizact pads to polish scuffs off the cockpit of the F4 |
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Hexangler
| Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 05:17 pm: |
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Check out this from the Dupont site small feature on Buell motorcycles: http://www2.dupont.com/Surlyn/en_US/uses_apps/buel l_motorcycles.html Hex |
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Etennuly
| Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 08:24 pm: |
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Hex, That is good info right there. Most paint manufacturers will have the same types of materials for this application. The methods will also be similar. |
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Mesafirebolt
| Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 10:45 am: |
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I use Micro Mesh, available from aircraft supply shops. Its used for clear plexi-glass windows, start with the coarsest you need to remove the scratch, on mine usually the 1800, then gradually work up to 6000, then use the tube of polish, BUT when you are done with the 6000 you can already see your reflection in it. I have used it for years on airplanes, cars (Speedo covers)knives, guns and bikes. it lasts a long time! Hint, buy two, keep one specifically for plastic. |
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Dgp
| Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 11:30 am: |
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has anyone taken the "buell" vinyl stickers off an 07 12xbs and been left with "buell" still on the airbox but its a hazy faded black? I tried Novus #2 multiple times and this faded /hazy "buell" still always shows on the airbox. |