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Buellzebub
Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

anyone know of a alternative source for the rear brake pads for a 98 s1?
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Doncasto
Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Try Tat, Maria and Melanie at American Sportbike. Not only are the great people to work with, they are sponsors of Bad Weather Bikers!
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S3carnage
Posted on Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is any one running Pilot, MEZ3, and MEZ4?
Need some feed back - getting ready for new
tires.
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Milehi
Posted on Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm running MEZ3/MEZ4 (front/rear) on my Bandit... My buddy put the same combo on his S3. We both like that combo... My S1 is due new tires and that's what will be going on it. Try these guys for decent prices... BTW, they all ride too...
http://www.discountmotorcycletire.com/
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Buellzebub
Posted on Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks for the info Don, being canadian the bullsh*t with the border precludes me from ordering commonly available parts, i was able to cross-over the pads to an ebc fa140... retails here in canuckland @ less than half the cost for the useless factory rear brake pads [$90 cdn] that last less than 10,000 miles whether you use them or not. [not meaning to go off on a rant]

nothing agains't ASB but i prefer to support my local economy first if possible, [pads will be in on monday around noon, a 2 day turnaround's not bad]
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1995 S2 brake fluid? The front reservoir cap says one thing, the rear brake cap says another, and my service manual is buried in a box someplace. Does the '95 S2 really use two different brake fluids? Help. Thanks.

MikeJ (Still above the "add" lines.)
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Milehi
Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok guys... help me out here! In prior posts some of you were making references to Pirelli Dragons. Which model??? GT or GTS? The MEZ3/MEZ4 combo on my TourBandit are great for long hauls, but I'd like a more sports oriented tire for the S1. I have a CLASS session coming up in about a month and need to get the OLD D204s replaced and the new tires scrubbed in.
TIA
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X1glider
Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Milehi, http://www.discountmotorcycletire.com has Metzeler M1 and Dunlop 207ZR for $106rr/$86fr. If you can fit a 180rr you can even get the Dunlop 207RR for about 30 bucks more each but you get better grip.

Since I can only use a 170, I thought about getting the 207RR for the front and 207ZR for the rear (the RR doesn't come in a 170) but I don't know if it's a good idea to mix tires of different traction.

I've only read about the M1s, but reviews have been very positive. Many of my friends use the 207 ZR and RRs and swear by them. I think most members here would agree that a bike with the prowess of the S1 needs the stickiest tire you can find.

I don't know anything about the Pirellis and my knowledge of Avons only extends to the HD side.
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Milehi
Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks X1... That's where I buy all my tires. A big plus is that they are local to me and their mounting service is excellent and cheap! What the hell... I'll give the M1s a try and let y'all know what I think.
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Loki
Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Milehi,

The Sportecs will not dissapoint you. In the hiearchy of Metz tires they are above the z3/z4 and below the Rennsport.

Loki

"who is getting further over and wondering if he can drag the rearsets now"

In one of those infamous Mich left turns....I scared the cager next behind me. Must have thought I was going to lay it down.
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X1glider
Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Loki, the Rennsports have more traction? Is that what you mean by "in the hiearchy?" Keeping my options open...
Have you ever mixed tires on your bike, like in my 207RR and 207ZR frame of consideration? Like I said, I don't know if it's a good idea.
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X1glider
Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Milehi, do you have any opinions on buying from discountmotorcycleapparel as well? I just ordered my race suit and gloves from them about an hour ago. (yes, wrong part of board, I know)
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Milehi
Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

X1,
You shouldn't have any problems with these guys... All of my transactions with 'em have always been good. Hell, they even carry (read stock) those funky sized Lockhart Phillips bulbs that use on both street bikes... And to keep this on topic, I'll be taking my wheels to them tommorow to get the Sportecs mounted and balanced... They don't have any 170's in stock so I'm installing a 180 on the rear.
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X1glider
Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Be careful with the 180, it's made for a 5.50" rim. There are two 170 rim sizes however. 5" and 5.50". The M1's traction won't do you a bit of good if the bead unseats.
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X1glider
Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let me rephrase "There are two 170 rim sizes."
There are two 170 tires, one for 5" and the other for 5.5".
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Caboose
Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you Mr. Dunlop for 8000km of traction, but all good things must come to an end....
Do you smell something?

Time to give Bridgestone a try. I'll let you guys know how the BT010's perform next week after I get a couple hundred clicks on them.
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Loki
Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

X1G,

The renns are the sticky, sticky tires -

1) rennsports - track tire
2) sportecs - supersport tire
3) z3/z4 - sport tire

Those discountMotorcyclexxxxxxxx peeps won me over as a repeat customer
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Milehi
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

X1, Thanks for the reminder about the rim width! The guys at Discountmotorcycle are currently out of the 170/60 Sportec... I almost got the 180/55... I checked with Metzeler and the 180 would be a BAD choice for the 5" rim. They're getting more 170's in later this week. I can wait!
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Jerome
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Milehi, just to let you know : I have the Sportec M1 on my Buell after a set of D205 and of D207, and I'm much happy with them. Absolutely great handling and incredible grip. I have the 170/60 on my 5.5" PM wheels and the width of the M1 is 165mm indeed. The 170/60 D207 had a width of 175mm on the same rim. Next time I'll go for the 180/55 on the PM wheel.
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Milehi
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jerome... Glad to hear you like 'em... I really like Metzelers in general (have MEZ3/MEZ4s on my Bandit) and am looking forward to playing on the S1 with the Sportecs. If I had the PM wheels I wouldn't sweat the 180's, but since I have the 5" Buell wheels I'm limited to the 170's. Mezeler states that the 180's fit a limited range of wheel widths... 5.5" to 6"... I just gotta cool my jets for a few days and I'll be scrubbing in the new rubber!
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X1glider
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jerome, for you, the 180 is designed for the 5.5" PM rim. Unfortunately you didn't know that and just did the stock size when you relaced it. But the cast Buell wheels are 5". If Milehi has PMs, he can use the 180 too, but not if he has the cast wheels.
I have to say I wish Buell gave us all 5.5" rims so we can safely use 180s. It seems the better tires just aren't made for our 5" rims. The D207RR and D208 only come in 180s.
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Sandstorm
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SMOKEM' CABOOSE I get all wound up when I see hot rubber dripping from the rear fender
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

alright . . .I padded out to the garage early this morning, with the intention of laying out the tools to remove the front wheel from the Ma Duece (that white stuff showing through the rubber, i am told, is NOT a traction enhancing material )

just for giggles and grins, I pulled the pads (30 seconds), undid the caliper fasters with the intention of sizing up the degree of interferance and difficutly (I've read many folks' tales of woe here about getting the caliper off) so I'd know if I should warm up the lathe, mill and refill the torch bottle, and, zippo-bang! the caliper darned near fell off into my hand!

thanks to all (especially Henrik) for the diagrams, photos, words and guidance . . . .phew

my karma is clearly shot for the day, at least . .. . .I'm gonna go hide in the basement under a cardboard box for a few hours
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Loki
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Ma Deuce felt a disturbance in The Force and subjected itself to its will.
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you bet let's go with that, shall we?
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All . . .now that i've got the difficult part done, I'm a little concerned . . ..

I put a jack under the front shock mount, as I've heard discussed often, and the scoot seems like it will fall over to the left if confronted with a strong sneeze . . (the floor is with 2 degrees of level, according to the whiz-bang doohickey I got to set up the lathe and mill). . .. i'm using a stand that supports the bike from the pegs (which I love, btw) . . . .is there an alternate place to put the jack?

thanks
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Bluzm2
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bomber,
I place a small chunk of 3/4 plywood across the shock and muffler, then put the bottle jack in the middle between the muff and shock.
Probably puts a bit more stress on the pipe mountings but it's not on there for very long.

Brad
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Ara
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whenever I jack up my S3 I steady it by running tie-downs from the forks to the overhead garage door rails. Cheap insurance.
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks gents . . . .I sat out in the garage with my chin on my hand (like the "Thinker";) and realized I had the cure . . . . ..

before I got my stand, I ran a length of stainless rod through the rear axle (it just barely fits), and propped up the rear on two jack stands . .. . the base is wide enough that it doesn't rock when I put the jack under the shock mount . . . ..

i didn't want to place the pressure on the exhaust at all, as it will be sitting like this for a couple of days . . ..

thanks for the tips, though . . .. I'll keep em in mind
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brothers and Sisters

there have been terrbytes devoted to removing the front brake caliper from our scoots . . . .. here, however, is a tip for installing them.

after you successfully remove your caliper, DO NOT go to Badweatherbikers.com and crow about it. your bike is sitting in the garage making a noise that sounds suspiciously like "MWAH HAH HAH!" and rubbing its hands together (rueful grin).

Although one does not often run across the word "hubris" in manuals devoted to vehical maintenance and repair, one, perhaps, should . . . .

sitting on the floor of the garage, I am astounded that the caliper ever came off . . . . .there's about 1/16" of interference, and it should never have allowed itself to be removed . . . .I think I'll go back and read Henrik's posts regarding caliper removal, cross my hands in front of myself, focus my eyes on the middle distance (high school picture graduation pose), anad give it another shot . . . . . .

ah, pride!
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