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Phillyblast
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 06:28 pm: | 
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Vagisil,
I hope the itching stops by the time you read this. No, seriously, drove me nuts like a steering wheel zipper watching that chick at the bar last night.
First, if you would like a street bike that's really a track bike there are plenty of options out there. Feel free. If you commute more than 20 minutes to your job I hope your wrists aren't to sore to flip the burgers/gyros/whatever it is you flip when you get there.
Second you have just violated Godwin's law, and therefore I shouldn't even be responding, since you have automatically lost the argument, but . . .
Third ask Court what Erik Buell considers a "lunch run" and you'll realize why Buell motorcycles, S1 aside, are surprisingly comfortable for long distance rides.
If you would like adjustable toe-tappers, lumbar-stretching clip-ons, and the like, they will be available from your beloved aftermarket, I'm sure. You fail to grasp the simple concept that a vast majority of street-bike purchasers want a (gasp) street bike.
Lastly, I'm utterly shocked at the nit-picking you've exhibited towards the new XB1125R. I'd have thought the only important thing you needed to consider was how it looked from the back. |
Jaimec
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 06:53 pm: |
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Could be worse. At least he hasn't once mentioned teflon tape...  |
Rfischer
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 08:30 am: |
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youse guys R 2 funy.... |
Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 09:01 am: |
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>>>>Third ask Court what Erik Buell considers a "lunch run" and you'll realize why Buell motorcycles, S1 aside, are surprisingly comfortable for long distance rides.
Yeah . . . well. . . in all fairness there are 4 states I've not ridden to so the jury is still out on long distance comfort. |
Ratbuell
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 09:38 am: |
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Four whole states? Slacker....
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Jaimec
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 09:45 am: |
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Well, if one of those states is Hawaii, I'll give him a pass. That puddle west of California is a bit deep... |
Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 10:42 am: |
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Actually . . . to be accurate I should have qualified 4 CONUS.
I used to have a bad habit of just getting on various Buells and riding around.
It's easy to get lost in Tennessee and all of a sudden be sitting in Boise.
I am terrible navigator. |
Spike
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 11:26 am: |
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quote:For me ,I would rather ride a bike designed for the track on the street, than a street bike on the track, during the trackdays
I think that's the heart of the issue.
Many of us want the no-holds-barred performance of a race bike, but we've realized that trying to ride a race bike to work and back Monday-Friday or across state lines absolutely sucks. The high seat, high footpegs and low clip-ons that allow a road racer to find a few more tenths due to the improved aerodynamics, limitless ground clearance, and marginally better front-end feedback are absolutely punishing to those of us who are trying to ride further than to the finish line and aren't collecting contingency checks. The same can be said for I4 engines with top-heavy powerbands, maintenance-intensive chain drives, and dual 320mm floating rotors pinched by dual radial mounted brembo 4-piston calipers activated by radial master cylinders. All that stuff may add up to marginally better lap times in the hands of professional riders or get you bragging rights in a crowd of 20-somethings, but it won't get you down your local backroad (or track day) any faster and it makes the bike harder to live with.
What attracts many of us to Buells is that Erik Buell gets this. Buell delivers bikes that are very easy to live with and yet they handle well enough to keep up with (and often outrun) just about anything the rest of the world has to offer, right up until the point where horsepower takes over. The 1125R doesn't stray away from this "street-first" formula, it just adds a lot more horsepower. The reason the bike is being compared to the RSV and the 1098 is because it offers that level of performance.
Part of the reason your post caught so much flak is that you're the same guy who has yet to ride an 1125R and yet you've already complained about the front brake, suspension, belt tensioner, and now the ground clearance. We've all read reviews from professional riders praising the bikes performance and many of us have even ridden the bike ourselves and found it to be quite impressive. To hear you say that the bike is not good enough for you without you even throwing a leg over the bike is a bit insulting. |
Spike
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 11:28 am: |
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quote:It's easy to get lost in Tennessee and all of a sudden be sitting in Boise.
I am terrible navigator.
You know, I hear there's a great GPS system available for the Ulysses. It could help you to prevent (or cause) getting into those sort of situations.  |
Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 01:06 pm: |
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>>> I hear there's a great GPS system available for the Ulysses.
I'd need it!
I was in the Borrego Springs area one day doing some "testing" and had to get back to San Diego for Xmas dinner.
Joe and I headed to I-5 and hopped on.
I'm cruising along thinking . . MAN IT'S COLD and alternating the hands on the back of the rear cylinder when I see the WELCOME TO ARIZONA sign . . . OOOPS.
Now if Buell just made a bike with heated grips!
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Dynasport
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 01:21 pm: |
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Ok, dumb question here, but is the 1125 really comfortable enough to do some long rides on? I have been really looking at the Uly because I thought the other bikes would be totally uncomfortable for an all day ride. You see, I live in Florida where most of the roads are pretty boring, but when able I ride to other states like NC to ride in the mountains. I need a bike that I can make that ride on and carry a bit of stuff with me. I assumed the Uly was the only Buell option. But maybe not?
Dan
I can ask these dumb questions because I am home today sick as a dog and bored to death. Millions of things to do, no energy. And bummed because I had planned to ride to Daytona for Biketoberfest and now I don't think I could make it to the end of the street. And now I am whining. I have sunk to a new low.
(Message edited by DynaSport on October 17, 2007) |
Jaimec
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 01:50 pm: |
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Dynasport, it all depends on what you're used to. My good friend Erika rode her CBR929RR from San Francisco to visit me in New York with multiple stops along the way to visit other friends. Me, I'd NEVER try anything like that on that bike. I might consider it with my XB12Ss, which (ergonomically) isn't much different from the M2 Cyclone I rode from New York to Daytona Beach and back (two days each direction). |
Ccryder
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 02:17 pm: |
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Court:
You can borrow my Quest anytime or, my Zumo. But do you really think that will help your TN -Boise problem. I just wander "where ever" and tell my GPS to take me home and "Shelia's" sweet voice just prods me in the right direction.
Well time2work
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Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 03:03 pm: |
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Neil:
Any idea how dull I'd be if I knew where I was going or what I was doing?
Hey . . . Bryce got married last weekend! I still recall the day you babysat him. You did much better than the day I left him with Jerry Haughton and Erik Buell to go for a "little motorcycle ride" . . . he came back telling me about "we hit a rock going over 120mph . . . swerved all over and were just fine".
I suggested we'd perhaps not want to share this with Mom when we got home.
All you did was escort him throught the mudslides!
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Reepicheep
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 03:20 pm: |
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Court... you just need a GPS with a map of the US loaded up... and a button marked "shuffle".
Dynasport... I rode the 1125 at mid ohio. Go sit on a firebolt, and thats about what the 1125 will feel like.
I would not ride one far, I am a lightning guy, and 6'2", and it was too cramped for me... but others have. You could probably swap out the 1125 pegs for lightning pegs and that would help with the legs (where I felt most cramped), but the weight would still be on your arms.
It'll be one of the best sportbike seating positions you could imagine, but still not up to a standard seating position (like a lightning), and way below an adv tourer position (like the Uly).
From what you are describing, I think you would be better off wrestling a Uly for the occasional track day then you would be wrestling the 1125r for everything *but* aggressive sport riding. |
Ccryder
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 03:54 pm: |
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Court:
Heck I just use it for getting home, even then if the road calls............... I follow it and Shelia still gets me home.
We ran around NE GA 2 weeks ago on our honeymoon and had a blast picking any curvey road and then letting Shelia take us back on "track" when we ran out of road or curves.
Time4 a telcon
Neil S. |
Mbsween
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 05:01 pm: |
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Dyna,
The pegs are a whole bunch higher than an X1, but the bars felt about the same. I have a 32" inseam. It took me a session to figure out the riding position, but once I figured out where all the controls were it was a very easy bike to ride. I would have liked to mess around with the shifter adjustment at the track.
If the pegs were a bit lower I'd think an old guy like myself (45) would be able to ride 1000 miles on the bike no problem.
I'm thinking a Uly be a better choice for long distance haulin though.
My 0.02 |
Dynasport
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 06:13 pm: |
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Sounds like I need both. Too bad the bank manager doesn't see it that way. Guess I'd be happier with the Uly most of the time.
Dan |
Josh_
| | Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 12:05 am: |
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>Looking at this picture I think I was about to drag my toe slider at this point - the bike looks to be leaned over at a good angle though. It just seemed to occur more frequently than when I rode my 9r.
Xb9, try leaning into the corner instead of away from it, you'll pick up a good deal of ground clearance. |
Bigdog_tim
| | Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 10:45 am: |
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Neil - +1 on letting Sheila getting you home.
As for getting there, my Buell's all have their own mind about what is the best way. I have learned that the bike knows best about such matters.
Court - this past August, I headed out Thursday afternoon on a three day weekend planning on riding the Cascade loop and maybe follow the Columbia East for a bit. Well - my Buell had a different thing in mind. I ended up in McCall, ID (about 500 miles off the "planned" course). One of the best weekends I had all summer (not counting Inside Pass, Laguna Seca, etc).  |
Doerman
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 12:42 am: |
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Court says:
I was in the Borrego Springs area one day doing some "testing" and had to get back to San Diego for Xmas dinner.
Joe and I headed to I-5 and hopped on.
That would probably be I-8 since I-5 doesn't go to AZ. Yeah, you need a GPS |
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