| Author | Message | ||
     Vagelis46 |
I have read in a moto-magazine, that Buell is one of the companies that is experimenting with traction control for their models. They actually said that although most people would expect a Jap factory (Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha) to be the first to introduce traction control, Buell might surprise us all and do it first. Any comments ??? I think this mag is pretty reliable, since they said about the Laguna Seca introduction of the 1125R, 1 month early. | ||
| Jaimec |
I think everybody forgets that HONDA introduced traction control on a street motorcycle over a decade ago with the ST1100... Traction control is also available as an option on the new BMW R1200R Roadster too. | ||
| Dave_bogue |
Isn't the V twin motor sort of a traction control in itself? The flat torque curve and steady pull of the engine from low rpm to high rpm is the V2's forte. Dave | ||
| Ratbuell |
Unfortunately we had a young lady at Pocono who proved that a V2 is not a form of traction control. Whacked the throttle on exit, spun out...whap. Although I believe she left on the ground and not in the air, and is OK other than some bruises and a collarbone injury. Easy to ride? Yes. Predictable? Yes. Rear up and bite ya if you're hamfisted by accident? You bet. All I know is traction control in our Magnum R/T gets turned off every time I drive it. Burnouts are fun, and sometimes you just have to get up that gravel drive without cutting spark and throttle (by wire on the Magnum). It'd be interesting to see, though. Switchable, I hope? | ||
| Coal400 |
This actually sounds interesting to me. It could prevent some dangerous conditions while cornering and counter act some instinctive response... How would this work I wonder? The front wheel has a large "tone ring" that doubles as the front rotor. The sensor is mounted in the caliper. The 2nd "tone ring" could be put on the front sprocket/drive/pulley. The ecu could identify differences in wheel rpm, and make throttle corrections based on the feedback. (this is me just spewing out my thoughts) this would mean that there would been no more wheelies either, as the front tire would have to be on the ground, or the traction control would activate. Hmm it will be interesting to see how/if this is executed. I would certainly want the option to turn this off, but it does allow for a more powerful engine in the hands of a less skilled or disciplined rider. | ||
| Jlnance |
How would this work I wonder? It would be a fun project to work on. I think you could do it all inside the ECM with no extra sensors. If the clutch is engaged and a rapid increase in ignition rate is detected, assume the wheel is slipping and skip a spark. That would probably be somewhat crude, but it could be refined. A fun project  I wish I had source code for my ECM.  | ||
| Lake_bueller |
Unfortunately we had a young lady at Pocono who proved that a V2 is not a form of traction control. Whacked the throttle on exit, spun out...whap. Same thing happened to me yesterday at Road America. I slid about 15ft on my right butt cheek while the bike spun down the track. My suit and gloves did their job with great protection!! The first thing I said to my buddies back in the pit was about how great traction control would be in that situation. Read the rest of the report in the Road America Feedback posting. | ||
| Jaimec |
All motorcycles currently sold in this country already HAVE traction control. You hold it in your right hand just behind the brake lever... | ||
| Dbird29 |
True Jaimec It's just getting the calibration right that's a bitch. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Yah. I have a hell of a time keeping my elbow calibrated too; from time to time I strip threads on bolts with it. LOL. | ||
| Trojan |
They actually said that although most people would expect a Jap factory (Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha) to be the first to introduce traction control, Buell might surprise us all and do it first. Suzuki already have a form of traction control fitted to their GSXR range in the form of adjustable mapping (now fitted to the latest 600 & 750 models as well as the 1000). I believe the WSB rules for 2008/09 state that electronic aids such as traction control and adjustable mapping will only be allowed if they are fitted to the stock bike, in which case you can expect to see all of the Big 4 + BMW, KTM & Ducati come with it as standard on their sports models at least. | ||
| Gregtonn |
Bazzaz already makes an after market, plug and play, -and AMA legal for some classes- traction control device. You can get information at bazzazperformance.com. G. | ||
| Slaughter |
AMA homologation rules mean we're likely to see traction control in some form on a lot of the 600 and 1000 class bikes in 2009 (just guessing) It's NOT a bad thing... but it CANNOT be relied on by a ham-fisted (or ham-footed) rider to make up for crappy technique... ditto the slipper clutch. | ||
| Cataract2 |
Er? What is this traction control and how does it work? | ||
| Gregtonn |
"AMA homologation rules mean we're likely to see traction control in some form on a lot of the 600 and 1000 class bikes in 2009 (just guessing)" 2007 AMA rules already allow the previously mentioned traction control unit in Super Sport and Super Stock. | ||
| Towjam |
just an fyi.. BMW started offering ASC ("Automatic Stability Control") on most all of their R and K bikes beginning with the '07 model year. | ||
| Mtg |
If your riding skills require traction control on your streetbike, maybe buy a bike with less horsepower. TC also makes racing less exciting. | ||
| Rick_a |
Well in some forms of racing (I.E. MotoGP) the bikes are unrideable without it. As far as streetbikes, I agree with the above. | ||
| Baggermike |
Kawasaki has traction control on the new bike, but what is next training wheels? | ||
| Bearly |
Maybe it will be adjustable to limit wheelies right to the balance point? I might even get good! | ||
| Baggermike |
you can get a bank angle sensor and wire it up to shut the bike off at the balance point and then you will get good. Mike | ||
| Joey |
I've seen training wheels on cruisers! | ||
| Timmyusmc |
Yeah a lot of cruisers have training wheels. They try to disguise them as an extra seat and call it a sidecar but we all know what it really is. |
