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Archive through October 02, 2007Brumbear30 10-02-07  08:22 pm
         

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Nevrenuf
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you should always remember the past but you shouldn't live in it for those who can't remember are sure to repeat it.
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Politics tends to be a meandering subject, diagonal analogy closed.
But with the war tribunal and war crimes trials I wonder how he's remained un-noticed this long.
I remember there being another one in the last few years who was also outed and his adult kids were very upset at the attention he was getting.
(I can't say more due to the ownership of the company I work for.)
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Djkaplan
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I work for myself right now, so I can say what I feel. I saw the last episode of Ken Burns "The War" last night. I know that history is written by the victors, but what I saw last night, and what I heard the old veterans say about what they witnessed, just reinforces my attitude that he can't live here.

Not here. Not after that.
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"TUESDAY, MARCH 14, 2000"
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2000/March/124cr.htm

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The case against Hammer was brought by the Criminal Division's Office of Special Investigations (OSI). 63 persons have now been stripped of U.S. citizenship and 53 have been removed from the United States as a result of cases brought by OSI since the unit's creation in 1979.




I wonder what the actual total numbers are, and how many more there'll be.
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Jayvee
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Although I got no problem with deporting his sorry a$$, it does seem a bit self-righteous to kick out an old man for a long ago act. What we now call a crime, he could have been shot for refusing to do, at the time. We didn't seem to have any problem letting those rocket scientist guys like Von Bruan stay, they were Nazi party members, and concentration-camp labor did all their hard work for them. This guy was just a guard, he didn't institute the policies, etc. A very great many people, institutions, companies, etc. were complicit in the Holocaust and other war crimes. We still drive Volkswagons, didn't Hitler himself help design the Beetle? The average Johann at the time would find it pretty hard to avoid being complicit with the German war machine in some way, it would have been unpatriotic to them at that time. Not even just Germans, remember that Charles Lindbergh guy who flew across the ocean? http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/lindbergh/sfeature/fa llen.html

Here's what the good dog-handlers do:
http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Phot os/060321/060321_abugrahib_verdict_hmed5p.standard .jpg
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Jayvee
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh boy, it's worse than I thought:
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/new_world_orde r/bush_nazis.html
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