Author |
Message |
Kahuna
| Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 11:40 am: |
|
Ara, here are the pics I promised you. This first one is where I had the L fitting coming out. This idea was scrapted after I was concerned that puke will somehow get to the rear wheel! I plugged the breather hole on the race cleaner, used my existing T and routed the hose up under the tank and down next to the battery. Finally, I cut the hose (which was reaching all the way back to the lic. plate) and I terminated it with a vent filter just under the brake oil resevoir.
|
Johnnybravo
| Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 12:54 pm: |
|
Be careful and continue to check i did the same and it puked all over the rear. Best solution a catch can. oh yeah shake it baby |
Ara
| Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 02:06 pm: |
|
Kahuna, Great pictures, very illustrative, thanks! If I may, let me direct your attention to the extensive discussions with Jose and others in the early archived entries on this part of the BBS. In those discussions Jose conviced me that due to the design of the rocker boxes and gravity, liquids that find there way to the breather fitting cannot return to the engine. If your breather fitings point upward (as the factory orients the rear one and as I see in your photo), the breather fitting itself will trap some liquids in it. That serves as a sort of liquid plug in your breather system. When enough liquid is trapped there the force of air in the breathers will tend to blow some of it out, but not all. As a result of that discussion, I altered my breather system (which was somewhat like your own). If you're interested in the photos, check out the archive here in the early November timeframe. Let me know what you think, and ping me off line if you like: seriousfun3@yahoo.com Russ |
Buellzebub
| Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 02:11 pm: |
|
this is what i've done and it works well for me. use 90 degree fittings, shorten the spigot end to clear the carb mount and frame tube better if you want. point the fittings downward so there is no internal pooling [oil cannot flow back into the heads anyways]. route the hoses along the inside of the frame tubes and tuck them through the gap in frount of the drive pulley. route the hoses back to the rear shock eye and zip tie in the appropriate position. i route my lines so that they face outward just above the shock eye on the carb side, you may add filters if you want. i have had this setup on two s1's. all you see is a little puff of condensation when the engine is cold. |
Ara
| Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 02:14 pm: |
|
Kahuna, the narrative description of my breather solution begins on 31 Oct 01, with photos the next day. Jose Q's logic and diagrams preceed that. Hope this helps. Russ |
Kahuna
| Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 02:21 pm: |
|
Cheers Russ ... I'll take a look. |
Sandstorm
| Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 10:50 am: |
|
|
Ara
| Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 12:29 pm: |
|
Sandstorm: COOL! Do you have a picture of the breather side of the engine with the hoses and fittings shown? And holy smokes, what kind of hose is that and were did you get it???? Russ |
Spiderman
| Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 02:33 pm: |
|
Thoes hoses are tits |
Bluzm2
| Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 02:57 pm: |
|
Donn, Did you ever find a source for SS lines with pre-swedged ends? Brad |
Fresh
| Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 01:14 am: |
|
Sandstorm, WOW Very cool setup, pls. provide more info about those hoses and can. Great work. Fresh |
Seeeu911
| Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 02:15 am: |
|
Not yet Brad. All I see is the clamp on ends. Russell makes kits that you can assemble to custom lenght without the clamps.. I'm going to try them. |
Seeeu911
| Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 03:39 pm: |
|
Anyone know the part number for the Air/Oil separators ? the ones that fit inside a breather hose ? Thanks ! |
Ara
| Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 10:03 pm: |
|
No, but perhaps you'd be interested in some beach property in Wyoming. There's no such part, Seeeu, at least not a factory part. |
Aaron
| Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 11:05 pm: |
|
Donn: 25329-91. I don't like'em, they add too much restriction to the hose. |
Seeeu911
| Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 08:29 am: |
|
Thanks ! Aaron !? I think I have a blown seal. After a high speed ride in the florida twistes yesterday I noticed a lot of spitting from tranny vent hose/breather. Pulled the clutch cover and about a pint overfull ! drained it, refilled it corectly, checked engine oil level, ok. I'll ride today and see if its overfull again. Blown seal |
Jsunstar
| Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 12:55 pm: |
|
sandstorm... what kind of can is that and where did you get it? thanks any more pics/info? |
Ara
| Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 09:49 pm: |
|
Junstar, I'm sure that's a Jaz catch can. They call it the "1 Pint Mini Breather", their part number is 605-375-01 with 3/8 inch nipples, and it retails for $45.95. Their web site is www.jazproducts.com. I still want to know about those hoses! Sandstorm??? Russ |
Fresh
| Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 06:43 am: |
|
Thx, Ara for info on the can. Yes, Sandstorm dont sit on the hose info, we want them too. Fresh |
Bomber
| Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 04:03 pm: |
|
er, I believe the hose's are from Jeg's . . . . .now if I could only find my catalog . . . . . |
Joem
| Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 09:16 pm: |
|
Who needs a catalog when you have the 'net? http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=36815&prmenbr=76 |
Ara
| Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 12:51 am: |
|
Bomber & Joem - Thanks! But what's "AN size: -06" mean??? I never saw that before. Russ |
Blake
| Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 03:56 am: |
|
I'm guessing, but -06 is probably indicating size in 16ths of an inch (6/16"=3/8" )? |
Bomber
| Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 10:08 am: |
|
Blake right you are, sir . . .AN-06 = 3/8" extra raisin pie for you! |
Jrh
| Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 10:27 am: |
|
Anyone curious about Army-Navy hose fittings,a website that explains sizes,etc. is www.anplumbing.com-looks like much$ stuff |
Sandstorm
| Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 10:38 am: |
|
Sorry guys I haven't been back here for a while. I've been doing the finishing touches on the TORQUE MACHINE. Didn't think anyone would be this interested in what I had done. I actually bought the hose through a catalog called Grainger. Where I work we do a lot of business thru this company. You can check out their website at, www.grainger.com AND the catch can is actually a Jaz catch can, painted silver. I hated that DULL black. I'll provide more pics soon |
Loki
| Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:02 pm: |
|
we are always interested in what others do around here |
Sandstorm
| Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 07:02 am: |
|
Holy Sht...the price per foot on the blue hose on the Jegs website is extremely high. I only paid $.52 a foot thru Grainger. I purchased a 5 foot section and it was plenty. |
Ara
| Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 08:08 am: |
|
Sandman, I was thinking that if you got your blue hose from Jegs that must be independently wealthy or something! Have you got the web site for Grainger? Also, the Jegs web site says you can't use hose clamps on that stuff. Does that square with your experience? Russ |
Sandstorm
| Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 08:22 am: |
|
Me.....Independently weathy??? Unfortunately I have a 40 hour, 4 day work week I need to win the lottery. The website, www.grainger.com Check it out On the topic of hose clamps....I didn't have to use hose clamps on the catch can because the fit was tight enough. |