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Buelltilicious
Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did a fluid change last night and ran out of Sport-trans fluid so I just added some H-D 20/50 to my primary (about 12 ozs mixed with sport-trans)
Hope my clutch is OK!!

Should I buy some sport-trans today and change it or is it OK to run like this?

Thanks guys
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tried mixing oils/lubes like that once and....

This is what I had before the blending:




This is what I found in the garage the following morning:




Sorry, I couldn't resist, I actually still have the M2 as shown, never did actually blend the primary lubes, but did switch the M2 over to synthetic in the primary.

My opinion as a total amateur with no PhD in Oil technology is to just buy some fresh Sport Trans fluid or some of the new approved Synthetic stuff and change out the fluid this weekend, or sooner if you plan to put on lots of miles in the next few days.
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Buelltilicious
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At least it wasn't one of those Japanese bikes you woke up to......lol
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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, August 13, 2007 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HD 20w/50 is aprroved for use in the primary, isn't it? I wouldn't sweat it, but if it's going to bother you, change it.

It wouldn't bother me, though.
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Buelltilicious
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not sure is IT?
Can someone with some H-D knowledge give us some insight.....................
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Sloppy
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Screaming Eagle Syn3 is approved, but not the standard HD oil.

As long as the shifting is okay I'd likely just keep it in there. It may not work as well as the "recommended" fluids, but I don't see how it would cause any damage.

But if it's something that's going to bother you then just change it. It's not that expensive to do anyway...
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Newbuellertoo
Posted on Friday, September 14, 2007 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just bought my 2000 S3T two weeks ago.(After 20 years without a bike) I Don't have an owners manual and haven't bought a shop manual yet. Is there anywhere on this site that might have complete instructions for fluid checks and fluid changes?
Also, how do you remove the headlamp from the fairing. I think my headlamp is mounted upside down ( According to the wording on the front of the lamp!) It is almost unrideable in the dark as the pattern is so weak. I've managed to get a little more upward adjustment in it ,the light is a little better on low beam and worse on high beam. Still plenty of riding before the snow flies. Sure would like to see the road when I leave for work.
Thanks
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5liter
Posted on Friday, September 14, 2007 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Newbuellertoo:
You need to remove the fairing. Take off the mirrors and the turn signals and the fairing will come right off. To remove the light you're going to have to depress the clips on the head light assembly and wiggle the clip out of the frame. I do mine one at a time. If the clips are plastic, be REAL careful when you put the light back in the frame. Just a light tap is all you need. It's a tight fit getting to the wire connector, but it can be done. Just take your time.
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Newbuellertoo
Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

5liter Thanks for the info. Does the adjuster knob come off as well?. I see there is a nut on the threaded adjuster bolt. Is this to hold the bolt while the knob is spun off?
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5liter
Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Newbuellertoo:
Yup. It comes off. That nut is just a jam nut for the adjuster. The adjuster should be on the top LH position when you're done. Is the light in upside down???
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Newbuellertoo
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When sitting on the bike, the adjuster is on the lower left. If I take the headlamp out and rotate it 180 degrees, it will end up in the upper right corner. The wording on the front of the headlamp is upside down. I will try to take the whole thing apart and reassemble it right side up and with the adjuster where you said it should be. I am going to wrap the clips with wet paper towels for a couple of hours before I attempt to take them out. This might help to alleviate some of the brittleness. Any recommendations for a replacement bulb? He current one appears to be pretty lame, but that could just be a by-product of how it is currently mounted. Thanks for your help. There aren't exactly a lot of Buell owners in the neighbourhood that I can go to for advice!
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5liter
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just take the adjuster knob off and put it on the upper left when you put the light back in.
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5liter
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When you put it back in the bike it should look like this:



2 on the left and one on the right. The adjuster goes on the top left. This is my old light. Notice the missing clip? That's what happened to me when I tapped it to hard putting it back in.
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Newbuellertoo
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks again. I'll let you know how I make out.
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5liter
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Newbuellertoo:
Here's a pic of the light in the bike


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Newbuellertoo
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

5liter,
Thanks for the pictures and advice. I was actually able to see the road ahead of me this morning.I don't know about you, but I still think the low beam on the S3 is a little weak. I found myself using the high beam any time I was travelling above 70- 80 k.p.h.(Most of my trip to work is on unlit roads.)
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5liter
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You've got to adjust the light. Do you have a service manual?
I agree though, the light is weak. I worked midnights before I retired and did a lot of night riding.
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Newbuellertoo
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have adjusted about as far up as I can without losing the effectiveness of the high beam. It is still a hundred times better than it was. I don't have a service manual yet. As a matter of fact, I'm still waiting for the owners manual that the dealership promised me when I bought the bike.That was what prompted my original question about fluid level checks in my original post. I've also been playing with the suspension settings to tighten up the forks and loosen up the back end without really knowing what I am doing. I'm making changes in very small increments to see how the bike reacts.Long waits for Buell items is S.O.P. with Harley Dealerships from what I can gather reading posts here.
p.s Your bike looks great. I like the polished wheels and Non-Blacked out engine cases. Looks great.Other than the occasional Popping and momentary engine die-out, my bike is running great. Gets a lot of attention (as its pretty rare around here) and handles like a dream.
Thanks again for your help.
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5liter
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buy a shop manual. It's got all the info you'll need to do anything to the bike including adjusting the headlamp. Ebay has them quite often. Thanks for the compliment. The PM wheels are a PITA to keep clean but look great.
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5liter
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is the best place to get all your questions answered. Badweb has a lot of knowledge that can be tapped.
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