| Author | Message | ||
     Molly_hatchet |
very true spatten....werent u the guy that polished his bike with rye bread. | ||
| Spatten1 |
Lysol. | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
lysol..who would of thunk it...u can only get information like that here. | ||
| M2nc |
A fella at work is selling a 2002 GSX-600R for $3500 with 17,000 miles. He is the second owner, the first also works with us and I know the bike has never been ridden hard and has never been dropped. Well at least he never has pushed it in the turns because he wouldn't even try to keep up with me on the M2 one day. Bike is White & Blue and beautiful. I think if I had a '03 XB9R in the same shape, I could ask the same in not more. Either way, its a great price on a clean super sport. Agree/Disagree? | ||
| M2nc |
As for my Buells. I think I could get most of my money out of the M2, but I didn't pay much for it in the first place. The Uly, well that is a different story. I have quit buying new in general because the man that thinks of a new vehicle as investment, is a fool. I buy used cars and trucks and have never lost as much money as the last new car I bought, a Toyota Camry. Yes the generally well received Camry has a good resale value but still lost tens of thousands of dollars in five years if you add interest paid. I bought a '94 Suburban with 94,000 miles four years ago. It now has 175,000 miles and runs great. I could sell it now for about half what I paid for it, which is less of a loss I took on the Camry in the first year of ownership. I just sunk money fixing the rear air conditioner in the Suburban but the total cost of repairs would not have made two monthly payment on a new one. All my vehicles including the bikes are paid for and the savings in interest alone is staggering. I fell in love with the Uly and have not regretted buying it new. I love both my Buells and plan to leave them in my stable for a long time. I would like just to add bikes to the stable not trade my present bikes. If I did I would have to post on the "Better to once loved.." thread. Heck, I regret getting rid of my Nighthawk, it was good commuter. I want a touring bike, a sport bike and a true dual sport. That opens me up to other brands in the future. I may have to do the resale value thing in the future but not today. | ||
| Beachbuell |
""I think you are selling youngsters short. They are not all dumb and ignorant. Many of them know the market and want a bike that accelerates quickly and handles well, nothing wrong with that."" Most "youngsters" want the latest, greatest, fastest and coolest bike. Most are not educated enough about motorcycles to understand what Buell is. The second they hear Harley Davidson the bike is automatically dismissed in their minds as slow. If you stand a XB and a GSXR side by side I guarantee that MOST "youngsters" would go for the Gixxer. | ||
| Spatten1 |
If you stand a XB and a GSXR side by side I guarantee that MOST "youngsters" would go for the Gixxer. I agree. But the decision may not be made out of ignorance. The Gixxer is a great motorcycle and more well-rounded than an XB. I like my XB for the street, but I'm 39 years old. I thought Buells were stupid when I was young and rapid acceleration was important to me. I knew quite a bit about motorcycles back then, test rode a Buell, and was horrified by the lack of power and vibration. Now it gives me all I need and I like the "soul" of the bike. It just feels good to ride, an intangible thing. It's just fun, period. | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
i think the whole reputation thing goes a long ways with younger people...im sure most of us bought a car or bike waaay back when cause it was cool..then it turned out to not be what we expected...for me i ended up with my buell kinda by accident..dont let anybody tell ya that harley dealers are the only bad bike dealers...i was sooo frustrated trying to buy a bike in 05 that i stopped at a harley dealer and bought a buell....i wasnt impressed with my service there either but at least nobody walked away from me while i was trying to buy a bike....im pretty sure now that the 1225 is on the scene buells rep will grow..people respect a bike that can hold it own in the incredibly competetive liter bike class...no matter who makes it...if the 1125 can hold its own against the big boys the fold will grow...and badweb will have an influx of new younger and older riders....welcome to the crossroads...knee down ,throttle pegged, smile on. (Message edited by molly_hatchet on September 16, 2007) | ||
| Nondual |
Molly, that's a weird way to end up with a brand. | ||
| Trojan |
A recent UK survey showed that, when performance is pretty equal between machines, something like 76% of buyers choose a bike because of the way it looks. If that is true, and coupled with the fact that Buells are only sold at Harley dealers, then I think Buell have an uphill struggle on their hands selling the 1125 to current sportbike owners. The best that has been said about the 1125R styling in all of the road tests that I have read is 'It looks better in the flesh than it does in the photos'. Damning with faint praise I think, and not something you would ever hear about Ducati, MV or even the Jap big 4. I hope I'm wrong. | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
u would think non...but i had heard of buell ...just never realy seen one up close...i was shootin for a kawi 600RR ...i was talking to a salesman at a local dealership told him i had the money and what i wanted (they didnt have one in stock) told him id give him 1000 down and to order it he saw some guy on a bycycle ride by and went chasing him and didnt come back for a half hour....when he did get back he tried talking me out of the 600 and wanted to put me on a 1000,then tried to get me on a busa then a concours.. i knew what i wanted.. nobody listned..my forays at other dealers were about the same....i was working in seattle one day and friend said hey why dont we go look at buells and i can get some stuff for my hog...i saw the 9R and said thats the one...service wasnt impressive but it was a busy day and i was in shorts and a sleevless t-shirt so im sure i didnt look like ur usual harley buyer..anywhoo i gave them a grand and picked it up a few days later....then proceeded to end up here and learn about my bike...again dont let anybody tell ya that harley dealers are the only ones that suck..i belong to a few honda boards and they all hate dealers too...maybe now that bikes dont sell themselves as well dealers will service customers better..... | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
looks mean a lot these days when ur spending 12 grand or more...a ferrari that is ugly is just a fast ugly car....great engineering deserves great beauty . | ||
| Brad1445 |
Molly_hatchet ....great engineering deserves great beauty . ________________________________________________  +1 | ||
| Jimidan |
Mr. Hatchet says: ...if u wanna ride ur bike into the ground thats u ...not me...to me saying u buy a bike without resale is kind of weird...il be trading my CBR in next year for something else...if i ride it until it is dead then all i have is a dead pile of crap nobody wants myself included... ER, first, I don't ride my bikes (or cars) "into the ground", as I maintain them and keep them running in like new or better condition. If you will notice, these machines are a compilation of parts cleverly held together with various fasteners, each with its own specific torque values!  This allows for worn parts to be replaced on a regular basis. We call this maintenance. This may be contrary to your frantic "consumer" based philosophy (too much time in front of the TV as a child...could you recite all of those commercials by heart?), but it is hardly "weird". What could possibly be "weird" about carefully choosing your major purchases and then getting all your money's worth (in the only way possible for this type of depreciating commodity) by using them? You certainly can not get your money's worth by trading in your vehicle every two years...and I will bet they love to see you walk in the door...not that there is anything wrong with that! Believe it or don't, some of us actually have to live on a budget and are not millionaires. Also, I sold my 20 year old Porsche 924 for $5,000, to a young engineer who could appreciate the condition that I had kept it in and the class that only a fine vintage automobile can afford. In a way, I wish I had enough money to live in the extravagant manner you describe...I still wouldn't trade my vehicles every two years, but I would like to have the money for traveling expenses anyway. jimidang | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
sorry jim i didnt mean it to sound like u beat the crap outta ur stuff and dont take care of it...sometimes my point gets lost in the typing. | ||
| Spatten1 |
The best that has been said about the 1125R styling in all of the road tests that I have read is 'It looks better in the flesh than it does in the photos'. Damning with faint praise I think, and not something you would ever hear about Ducati The US press said the same thing about the last generation of Ducatis...and they sold like turds. Good points about style being the deciding factor when performance is simalar Matt, as they worked better than the 916 line but languished in the showroom. | ||
| Trojan |
The US press said the same thing about the last generation of Ducatis...and they sold like turds. Likewise in the UK. You can pick up a new or almost new 999/749 for a fraction of the original price now. | ||
| Chadhargis |
Well, as much as I'd like a new 1125R and as much as I hope it is a runaway hit for Buell, I selfishly, in the back of my head, hope there are deals to be had on them in a couple of years. I think it's an awesome bike, with humane ergonomics, and if it performs as well as the specs read, it will be a awesome track day bike. I'm hoping someone buys one, puts 5000 miles on it in two years, and sells it to me for a huge loss.  | ||
| Metalstorm |
Motorcycles are definitely an investment to me. An investment in my sanity and over all well being. As far as resale, I already know that if I ever sell there will be a big hit but that's cool because a bike is so much more to me than a dollar sign. I have never owned a new car and I never will but all my bikes have been brand spanking new. Cars are just appliances to me, something I use when I have to. Bikes are poetry in motion and the freak in me demands that all my bikes be virgins when I take possession of them. Every mile put on it must be put on it by me because of the emotional connection that forms between rider and bike. | ||
| Paintballtommy |
"Cars are just appliances to me, something I use when I have to." -Metalstorm cars do kinda feel like appliances once youve ridden. | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
u think buell has a problem..... http://sameerkumar.blogspot.com/2007/09/2008-honda -fireblade-revealed.html read up on how thrilled the fold is about the new hondas...the new gixxer 600 is ugly as crap too.... its gonna be one of those years that all the bike makers retool for the next year cause yike...the R-1 and the ZX10 look nice...but daaaaamn some of the rest of the stuff is uglified. | ||
| Beachbuell |
Bikes are poetry in motion and the freak in me demands that all my bikes be virgins when I take possession of them. Every mile put on it must be put on it by me because of the emotional connection that forms between rider and bike. Thats freakin great! I love it! | ||
| Timmyusmc |
personally i love the pics of the 1125r. well enough to order one from half way around the world from where i will be picking it up and i dont even get to see it until aug of 08. but if it looks better in person then i know i made the right choice. gorgeously mean looking machine and finally a real production superbike out of my home state of wisconsin. | ||
| Jstfrfun |
I own and operate a cycle shop in the southwest, I've come across many cool bikes that tempted me to keep, but alas, they all went away. My serious intention was NEVER to own a H/D product, having had to work on them numerous times. Then one of my customers brought in a wheel with the biggest rotor I'd ever seen. When I asked him about it he told me about his '06 XB, and I told him how much I hated H/D, he said "oh no, Buell changed all that ", Here ride mine! Oh My God now I'm a 99X1 Lightning owner! and I don't care how much its worth it's NOT for sale. I've Ridden just about every kind of machine made in the last 40 years, and I'm happy with a Vstar1100 for cruising and this X1 rocket for a substitute for Viagra...yea its that much fun. | ||
| Xb984r |
Something I've noticed on various other motorcycle forums is that the 1125R is found to be attractive by people that are Buell owners or Buell fans,most others think the bike is ugly,I guess time will tell. | ||
| Odie |
Is your Ss still for sale? Let me know, I have a friend looking semi-serious for one. | ||
| Ducxl |
I agree. But the decision may not be made out of ignorance. The Gixxer is a great motorcycle and more well-rounded than an XB. Spec sheets reveal facts.I'm amused when i see threads in the quick board asking why folks "do not" buy Buells.Could it be the facts? The fact that i can get a vastly superior track machine for the same or less than a Buell? I do not know why i've bought into Buell again,but i want an R1 or GIXXER someday.Don't think (with so many failures in the field) i'd consider another Buell anytime soon.They're already obsoleting belts on the 1125r.That means with abuse they're failing.How will BMC support those failures of 1125r models in the field? I no longer believe the "light-years ahead of the competition" in this regard.they cannot protect the customer from defects | ||
| Zac4mac |
nevermind (Message edited by zac4mac on October 30, 2007) | ||
| Xlcrguy |
Ducati makes perfect products, dontcha know... http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/motorcycle_recal ls/01/ducati/index.html All product these days are subject to recalls, Buells included! Does that somehow equate to an inferior product? | ||
| Cobralightning |
Xb984r- 1125R is found to be attractive by people that are Buell owners or Buell fans. Not to sure about that. I work with a large group of non riders and most of them find the 1125R to be a good looking bike, I started showing everyone pictures after I bought one. Only the couple of cruiser owners who would never have a sport bike did not like it. I think it will get more questions then my old 1999 X1. Whenever I go out I always have people saying ' Nice bike' or 'What kind of bike is that?" I can not wait for the questions to start flying on the 1125R. |
