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Beachbuell
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was installing the Vance & Hines full exhaust system on my 2003 Blast last night and was a little baffled at something. Does the Vance & Hines head pipe have a built in exhaust gasket on it. Here's the reason I ask................ There is no way the header pipe will actually mount to the head with the exhaust gasket in it. I noticed right off (as soon as I opened the box) that the end of the pipe has a nice rolled lip on it. So I took out the exhaust gasket and everything went pretty smooth from there. EXCEPT for mounting the bracket/muffker clamp. Who ever wrote these directions never actually took a good long look at the big picture or ever actually installed the pipe.
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pull out the old gasket first then put the other new gasket in, then install exhaust - you fubar'ed - lol - also I'm moving this to the exhaust section - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ

(Message edited by ezblast on May 19, 2007)
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Beachbuell
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think you get what I'm saying. I removed the old/used exhaust gasket. Installed new gasket, tried to install header pipe and it will not fit with the exhaust gasket in there. No way, no how, no chance. The V&H header pipe had a real nice rolled edge on it, thick too, like a built in gasket. I installed like that and she seems to be just fine. Maybe V&H updated/redesigned the Blast pipe? I just got the full system three days ago.
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Jugallo94
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am in the process of working on mine right now. My v&h pipe has a nice rolled end also, but fits with the exhaust gasket installed with no problems. I dont think they would put a built in gasket in the pipe, since gaskets wear out and need replacing. Check your gasket it may be in backwards.
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Swampy
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Or you could use Orange hi-temp silicone.
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the gasket in backwards?
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Rockbiter1
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The pipe does not have to "seat" all the way in the port to have a good seal.

You could also try an old flat style exhaust gasket from a sporty, just used one to install my Pro Series, fits good, and the pipe fit into the head better.
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Buellistic
Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When you use Gasket,exhaust port Part number 17048-98 it eliminates all the
problems that you have with the "BUELLschitte" Gasket,exhaust part Part number 65324-83A !!!

In BLASTing
LaFayette
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Beachbuell
Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will have to try that part number. I've done exhaust before and never had such a problem.
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Beachbuell
Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That 17048-98 made all the difference in the world. Thank you Buellistic!
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Buellistic
Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Beachbuell:

Check out www.BuellClub.com ...

Come visit us !!!

In BUELLing
LaFayette
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Kerryb
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello all, yesterday on the way home from work I blew the end cap off of my Vance & Hines SS2R. The bike suddenly got really loud and their was a big loss of power. It was pretty comical. So I didn't know this but after reading some info on the net about the V&H exhaust, one add said it would need to be replaced every 5,000 - 10,000 miles depending on riding style. Well, this exhaust had over 10K miles on it so I guess it was time? So, does anyone know where to just buy the muffler or do I need to buy the complete exhaust w/ header? Who has the best price?
Kerry B
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Contact V & H directly. Usually if a manufacturer knows you've already installed their part and it goes bad, they usually want to make good with some kind of repair or replacement, hence they'll probably sell you just a muffler or repair kit.
You can always install a different muffler. Takes a little ingenuity. I installed a Khrome Works Harley muffler instead. Simple install (I already had one that I got from a fellow Badwebber).
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Edward4130
Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am a new Buell Blast rider in Kansas City and now looking to upgrade the exhaust on this 2001. Looking at the V&H and wondering if I need to buy the whole $97 jet kit as well? Is there a place to know how to make the carb mods without buying all that stuff I don't need and will never use again?

Thanks in advance.
Edward
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Slowhand96
Posted on Friday, September 14, 2007 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Edward

Welcome to The Badweb!

No you don't have to purchase the $97.00 jet kit. Search or browse the posts about carbs. Most guys who have upgraded the exhaust run a 45 primary and a 175 main jet if only exhaust is done, if you do some intake mods then use 48/175 jets. Shimming the needle is sometimes done too.

Go Here.. and you will learn a lot about jetting the carb.
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/201 64/6812.html?1189559524

Spend some time browsing the posts, there is a lot of information here and a lot of very helpful and knowledgeable people.

(Message edited by slowhand96 on September 14, 2007)
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Edward4130
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK with a crazy life around here, (new Job) I am finally getting the bug to get this Blast running and on the road again. I have to cut off the stock muffler, the bolts just spin and I'm having no luck getting a wrench back on even the belt side to stop the spin.

On another note I was planning to re-jet the carb but the one that the Harley shop in Atlanta sent me was just plain wrong way too small of threads. Thanks for all the help, I'll be asking here and there for more help.

Other things while it's apart I purchased some lower superbike bars, to get a better position.

Edward4130 in Kansas City Kansas
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Krid80
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

make sure you unscrew the jet from the needle. alot of people think the jet is too small before they realize the jet unscrews from the needle.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also, the old (non CV) Keihin carbs used smaller jets. They might have sent you an old one.
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Hld01blast
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Quick question - just finished removing the stock exhaust on my 01 - new V&H on the way. Anyway, the bolts at the header were pretty rusted. On the right side, the bolt screwed out of the hole with the rusted nut still attached. On the left side, the nut screwed off but the bolt is still attached. Is this how it was supposed to come off?

I had the local H-D dealer order the header gasket for me to use with the new pipes, but am concerned that I might not be able to attach them as a result of the bolt issue.

Thanks in advance for any clarification.
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Ylwblast03
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From what i could tell when messing around with my exhaust those are studs, and should stay in the motor, not come out. In my opinion you should be able to screw the one that came out back in and keep on using it no problem.
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

reinstall stud separately, then nut to torque spec.
EZ
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Hld01blast
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the replies guys. With how rusted the bolt is, I might have to take it to Ace and find a replacement to install instead if I cannot get all the rust off with PB Blaster and a wire brush.

EZ, when you say to torque the nuts to spec, I presume that means one the new header pipe is installed on the studs. Think I might have to replace those nuts too - they are in horrible shape.
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

use grade 8.
EZ
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Hld01blast
Posted on Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will do EZ. Thanks.
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