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Archive through April 04, 2002Robr30 04-04-02  09:16 am
         

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Spike
Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rob,

That's why I'm looking for better seats for the X1. Regardless of power output, it just felt better. My biggest problem now is the Cyclone's lack of ground clearance. Now that I've got good tires and I'm comfortable with the bike I'm constantly dragging the shifter/brake lever. I'd love to own the X1, but I just can't own a bike that I can't tour on.

Performance is a "want" Comfort is a "need"

Mike L.
'99 Cyclone
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Robr
Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike,
As for touring on the X1, it has been done, on the stock seat no less. I have found the biggest problem with the stock seat is its narrowness and the way it slopes downward towards the tank, the angle and the narrowness at that point contribute to create a real ball crusher, add to that the heat eminating from the oil tank and engine and you have the makes for a real unpleasant experiance. I stuck a peice of insulating foam under the seat. I have heard the Buell custom seat illeviates this somewhat, although I have not tried it. What I have tried is 300 mile days on the Lightning, and even though to some this is not really touring, I never enjoyed much more than that on more comfortable machines. The key is to stick to the backroads. So go ahead and throw a tent and a sleeping bag on the back of an X1, others have done it, at the end of a 300 mile day expect your butt to be sore yes, but also expect to feel exilerated!
Rob
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd bet that my '97 M2 will out handle your X1 ANY day bubba!
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Ken01mp
Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oooh rah Blake. besides, a lot of good that special X1 frame does for the twisties if you dont have the torque to power through them. and oh yeah, im no hardened vet, being 19 and all, but i just got back from FL (too cold in WI to ride, i heard its hard on the bike) where i put in three 500 mile days, no problems.

Ken
01 M2
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Robr
Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake,
Let's go for it when your back in the New York area. Maybe a freindly battletrax?
In all seriousness, perhaps you could outhandle me on your M2, but I bet you could outhandle yourself over the same road on the same day with a back to back ride on an X1.
Rob
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Spike
Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

19 and three 500 mile days? I guess that beats 21 and NC to FL and back, even though I did have one 600 mile day. I was beginning to think I was the only young Bueller here.

Mike L.
'99 Cyclone (bought it when I was 20 )
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Raymaines
Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where's Matt The College Kid when you need him?
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Newfie_Buell
Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So what is the rake and trail of the 98 S1??

Blake, I am sure you must know this one.

Bill
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 12:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

RobR: I'm up for it. You will have to ride my M2 yourself to understand what I mean though. It's not quite stock and I've dropped the front just enough to give me the most perfectly neutral turn-in and cornering I've ever had the pleasure to experience on a motorcycle.
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Kevyn
Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

98S1W...25degrees, 3.9inches/9.91cm...same as all other models sold for 1998. '99 X1 offered 23degrees, 3.5in/8.89cm

Yer welcome,

Kevyn 98S1W(thanks Ron Y and Mr Linzy)& 96S2T(thanks Erik!, thanks Joe!)
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Kevyn
Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

99M2's and S3's 'specced' in with 24.5degrees and 3.8in/9.65cm...getting better and better!
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2000 World SBK champion Honda RC51? :)
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Johnnybravo
Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

both bikes are perfect yet flawed, the X1 needs to come carberated as an option, carberation is the sole reason i bought my M2 in 2000 ( when i was 20, for the guys up top^^^^) little mods and i was blowing the doors off and X1 and if i do need to up grade Boom 10 min later i have the carb off, on and tuned. Instead of scaning at the dealer or pulling off the power comander and remapping in on my computer
although Fuel injection Technology is to the point where you can interface it with the dyno and tune it that way. But for thoes of us who dont work at the dealer that gets a little more pricy than a .99 cent jet.
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Robr
Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My X1 is carburated...now.
Rob
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Johnnybravo
Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what did you have to do to switch it over new wiring, ignition, controle module?
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Rick_A
Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think a 99 and newer M2 with 98 and earlier tank and tail would be perfect.
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it is and there is no problem or modifications to make while swapping \
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Blake
Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The old style exhaust is better looking.
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Spike
Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh yeah, well my '99 exhaust looks better than burnt jeans.


I won't even mention the time I saw 200 miles before hitting reserve.

Spike
'99 Cyclone
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

200 miles you havent done anything to your engine yet huh
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Rick_A
Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Us short legged critters don't have to worry about hot legs
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Robr
Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Johnnybravo,
In short, yes.
Rob
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