| Author | Message | ||
     Cwxb12r |
Just pulled the trigger on a Drummer and Race ECM for my 07 XB12R. I also have a K&N filter. ECM will be reset too. Is there anything I should look out for when installing? Someone hinted that the 07 airbox was open enough as long as I re-route the PCV in-take hoses. Is this true? (anyone have instructions?) Any other comments or suggestions? | ||
| Nickcaro |
Welcome to the Drummer team. You can follow the instructions of the Drummer web site. Then look out for the ear to ear grin on your face when you first fire that puppy up.  http://www.kdfab.com/muffler%20removal.htm | ||
| Cwxb12r |
I already have a ear to ear grin every time I go out for a ride. Boy, my face is going to hurt after this.  Thanks for the link to the instructions. | ||
| Slamber777 |
We were just discussing this in the thread below. The 07 inner air box cover makes some difference. You'll like how the bike runs. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=32777&post=948281#POST948281 | ||
| Slamber777 |
Not sure what they mean by re-routing the PVC lines. l have an 06 Ss and the hoses routed the same on the 07 box. There is some out there who have installed a PVC catch can so the crank case pressure didn't go into the intake. Maybe that's what you heard. BTW, my wife calls the Drummer sound "Man Music" Very cool! | ||
| Kowpow225 |
She's got that right! I'd also recommend some high temp silicone where the header meets the muffler collector to make a really good seal there. Some members here get a little decel popping but mostly with the jardine. Great pipe! | ||
| Cwxb12r |
Thanks for the link Slamber777. Good info in that post. | ||
| Edmbueller |
I get TONS of popping with my Drummer, race ecm, de snorked, swiss cheesed inner airbox. | ||
| Cwxb12r |
Drummer arrived about an hour ago and it is already installed. I was surprised how easy it was to install. (didn't even follow the instructions) Race ECM and K&N filter should be on by tomorrow. Quick question though. I'm not going to be able to get a TPS reset until late next week...Any dangers running for a week without the TPS reset? Should I run the stock ECM, K&N and Drummer until the day of the TPS reset? Damn, that Drummer sounds gooood. | ||
| Cwxb12r |
Gah, another question...The dealership said I should get my timing check since I'm changing out the ECM and Exhaust along with the TPS. That would make it $90 instead of $40.. Are they trying to gouge me? | ||
| Ustorque |
you will have to wait to change the ecm out in the parking lot of the dealer who will be doing the TPS reset the bike will not run when you swap the ecm until the TPS is reset. | ||
| Al_lighton |
Changing your ECM or exhaust or TPS has no effect whatsoever on your timing. Now, it may be a good thing to know that your timing is spot on, but nothing about the stuff you're doing now mandates that check. Al | ||
| Steve_mackay |
According to Danny Bilansky(probably one of the top Buell mechanics there is), the timing *SHOULD* be checked & adjusted when changing ECMs. This is S.O.P. and is what is taught to the Buell mechanics at 'Buell School' in Milwaukee. Just telling ya what I've been told | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
Mr Mackay is 100% on. When I bought my bike from the first owner, he gave me the work invoice and receipt of the dealership's work when he swapped ECM's. | ||
| Cwxb12r |
Quick question though. I'm not going to be able to get a TPS reset until late next week...Any dangers running for a week without the TPS reset? | ||
| Riclyd |
The Drummer gives you a raging bull, its bad ass  | ||
| Badlionsfan |
Quick question though. I'm not going to be able to get a TPS reset until late next week...Any dangers running for a week without the TPS reset? don't install the ecm til you get to the dealer for the reset. | ||
| Cwxb12r |
I meant using my stock ECM. Will the stock ECM without a TPS reset cause issues? | ||
| Xbswede |
Run the stock ECM until you can get the TPS reset with the Race ecm. I ran mine for 6000 miles before switching to the Race ECM with no issues, including open air box. | ||
| Sort23 |
I have a stock 06 xb12ss and am planning to get an Original Drummer. I also plan to get an 07 inner airbox cover, K&N filter and Race ECM. Do I need an open airbox kit and catch can setup as well? | ||
| Xbswede |
You only need the open air box kit if you don't use a inner cover at all. The Catch can is a good idea either way. It keeps the oil form spewing back into your intake and filter. But not necessary if you run the 07 inner cover. | ||
| Hogs |
XBswede, Why do you say you don`t need or want a catch can because of the 07 inner cover? I don`t see that making any difference the 07 inner cover? | ||
| Badlionsfan |
hogs, read his post again. he said it is a good idea either way, but not need if using an 07 inner cover. it's not need for that because it is a stock set up, and they didn't have catch cans installed from the factory. | ||
| Sort23 |
So, the Drummer, Race ECM, K&N filter, 07 inner airbox cover and catch can would be a good setup? | ||
| Xbswede |
Sort23, Yes it would be a great setup. Hogs, I am not sure who's post you read but it wasn't mine  | ||
| Badlionsfan |
Hogs drops in for a visit from left field from time to time then wanders off again. left field in his case is  | ||
| Hogs |
There ya go... Making a mountain out of a mole hill again... It was stated no need IF you have a 07 inner airbox...Just wanted to know W H Y thats all folks... come again.. | ||
| Hogs |
But not necessary if you run the 07 inner cover. | ||
| Xbswede |
Hogs, I stated that the there was no need for the open airbox kit with the inner cover. Enough poking fun  Back to the question in hand. | ||
| Sort23 |
Thanks for input, I'll be placing an order in the morning. | ||
| Al_lighton |
RE: Static timing set with ECM swap Just because it is SOP to do a timing check with an ECM swap, doesn't mean that there is any scientific reason to do it. If the timing plate hasn't been touched, and the static timing was correct before, nothing about changing the ECM will change the timing. Think about it: There is a rotating cup with notches in it that rotate by a hall effect sensor and magnet. This creates an analog pulse train that is sensed on an A/D input line into the ECM. There isn't going to be a substantial difference in that A/D from one ECM to another that is going to skew the timing by any appreciable amount, and any that would exist would be orders of magnitude smaller than what you can adjust with that plate. If the timing cup and plate haven't been touched, the pulse relation to the cam/crank angle is not changed, and an ECM change won't cause there to be a different static timing. So, Danny Bilansky's statement notwithstanding, I'll stick by my original assertion, nothing about those changes mandates a timing check, but it may be a good idea if you don't know for certain that it is correct. Al |
