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Chasespeed
| Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 10:00 pm: |
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Okay, I THOUGHT I fixed the leak... took it for a ride last nite... And you know what? Its friggin worse.. Went outside today, and there was a puddle, good sized, under the bike... Looked over the bike more thuroughly.. The underside of the tail section, the rear wheel, swing-arm, TIRE, cam cover, header, etc.. The ONLY place there is any oil coming from is the pushrod bases.. BOTH sets now... This crap coulda got me hurt pretty bad, as I was "testing" on some exit and entrace ramps last night... Okay, regardless... I put some silicon in there, and gonna see if it seals...maybe just bad seal surface?? I am thinking about those bases from NRHS... Anyway, is there anything anyone can think of?? I have actually been thinking that there might be a build-up of pressure in the crankcase, or the heads... BUT, looking over the diagrams carefully, its not really likely... The crankcase is vented through the rear of the cam cover...back to the oil tank... the heads, well, they are vented through the breather system. And FYI, I have moved the trany vent to the catch can, so, no, thats not what is covering the rear tire in oil... Sorry for the long post, BUT, this is really aggravating me to a point that you wouldnt believe right now.... Chase |
Buellgekk
| Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 10:33 pm: |
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I believe the crankcase vent IS the headsvent. My guess is, install those NRHS bases with new seals (place those rubbers well, it's nervebreaking!) and the problem is over. |
Chasespeed
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 01:16 am: |
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Well, silicon didnt hold... leak is worse... I dont get it... Old dried up seals...no leak... New seals and o-ring... losing a LOT of oil... On the flip side, put new rubber on tonight... Chase |
Warlizard
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:44 am: |
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Iron Machine sells the Zipper's collapsible covers that include billet bases. They are about 150.00$ Personally, I don't trust the collapsibles and would go w/ just the billet bases for about 40.00$ My2c |
Warlizard
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:48 am: |
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Correction; Steel Thunder has the Zippers, not IM. |
Rick_a
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 12:01 pm: |
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The only way to fix a pushrod tube leak is to replace the seals and assemble carefully. Sometimes the lower retainers can get warped. The billet bases are a good step forward. NRHS has them as well. Warlizard is right about collapsable tubes...only use those is you have collapsable/adjustable pushrods. The rear of the camcover vents the oil tank only. The crankcase vents through the cylinder oil passages and pushrod tubes into the rocker boxes, through the umbrella valves and out the breathers. Only 1990 prior XL's have a gearcase crank breather. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 12:12 pm: |
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A lot of times the lower seal tends to get pinched and pulled out and not allowed to seal. Some times using a different seal on the same base works. Best thing to do is check the back (the side between the cyl and base) to make sure the seal didn't get pulled out by pinching. SOme times it takes a few times. I push down as had as I can with my left, making sure it is lined up then tighten the bolt with my right. The use a bright flash light to make sure it didn't get pinched out. Good luck. |
Chasespeed
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 12:21 pm: |
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I am wondering if my retainers are warped.... These are new seals, and o-rings... I have tried several times, several ways to get these seals to... well, seal... I will take the header back off, and take another crack at it, with some light... SO.. one more question... Should I leave the seals a little high on the tube, and allow the retainer move it into place? OR, Put the seal on the bottom of the tube, and pull the retainer down, and tighten carefully? Chase |
Spiderman
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 03:08 pm: |
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}Put the seal on the bottom of the tube, and pull the retainer down, and tighten carefully? That one. And try to put some preasure to the oposite side of the bolt to keep things even... |
Chasespeed
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 08:53 am: |
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Thats how I have been doing it. So, I guess my retainers are maybe bent... I tried jacking with it some more last night... and still no joy... Oh well, I will get another set of new seals, and those NRHS bases.... Chase |
Bluzm2
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 05:30 pm: |
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Chase, I have a couple of sets of stock clamps. Shoot me your addy if you want a set. |
Chasespeed
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 07:31 pm: |
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Sorry, should have updated this... I have a set of the NRHS Billet bases coming, should be here friday... I will promptly install them, and see if they leak... Thanks though Bluz... Chase |
Smoke
| Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 05:51 am: |
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i have had the best luck by seating the seals in the retainer dry, then lightly lubricating the pushrod tube and then sliding the base with oring down the tube and holding it flat on the top of the case and then tightening te bolt. with the nrhs set you need to pull the little locating pins off and then do both pushrods at the same time. the real key is to get everything flat against the lower case before tightening. it can be aggravating, but not as aggravating as a bad camcover gasket. good luck, tim |
Chasespeed
| Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:21 am: |
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Didnt know about removing the locating pins... that will eliminate some problems right there. Thanks Smoke... I will tell ya though, my cam cover gasket leaked for over a year, almost 2 before I got around to dealing with it... These pushrod seals... HA, i wont even start the bike.. I have oil cooked onto my ceramic coated header, and everything... Oh well, the parts should be here tomorrow, and I will tear everything back apart tonight, and go be ready to roll.... Chase |
Chasespeed
| Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 05:20 pm: |
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NRHS kit did the trick.... Chase |
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