| Author | Message | ||
     Steve_a |
A non-anonymous post: There is trollish behavior on these boards that ocassionally gets answered by a rude anonymous post; I grit my teeth when I see this and hope it is not a Buell employee, though I suspect it may be. My apologies if that is the case, though, as Dave Gess says, if you poke the bear enough, don't be surprised when you're bitten, even if he's under orders not to. IMHO, the kind of prodding that typically solicits these responses usually goes well beyond what you would experience in a conversation; few people are that damned rude in person. Dave Gess has also correctly summarized the need for anonymous postings; suffice to say that HD Inc. has yet to develop a communications policy that fully addresses the internet age, and we at Buell are bound by many of their policies, particularly as they handle Buell marketing. As for lap times and stock 1125R versus stock GSX-R performance: I was there (Gingerman, not Barber), and the previous anon posting was corrrect. Your mileage may vary. And you'll have to wait until the magazines get their hands on 1125Rs to hear much more on relative track performance; we are making no claims beyond the spec sheet other than than that the 1125R is intended to be the best sporting street bike we knew how to build. The "from the rider down" phrase is not just a marketing slogan to us. I think you'll like it. | ||
| Buellshyter |
Guess that answers my question  | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
For one thing my writing style, like Reg's, is pretty tough to conceal. Yeah, it would only take one slip of "remind me to tell you about it" to give yourself away.  | ||
| Court |
I'm guessing if you need a better answer than one from Steve Anderson . . . you're too smart to hang out with us. Steve, thank you. Court | ||
| Regkittrelle |
I like it when things resolve in this manner; a little more understanding by both sides. Thanx to all who chimed in. I will now return to the SadSACK. | ||
| Court |
I still get the lunch? | ||
| Firemanjim |
Steve,thanks for chiming in. And Blake, I will accept the one edit to "many" of us here, but my other statement stands.Annon=Buell employee is the first conclusion of "many" of us,and to lower themselves to the level of whoever was offending them is unprofessional and unacceptable be they ever so passionate. Show your passion with a cool skewering with wit and intelligence and a masterful use of the english language. I had a young woman get angry with me on a call because we could not transport her to a hospital out of county(policy)and called me an azzhole,then an effing azzhole. I smiled and thanked her--which of course, made her madder.She demanded my name and my superior's. I gave them to her and the phone number to call. She went all the way to the fire chief,I never even heard from him as I had stayed professional.Gritting my teeth the whole time,mind you. | ||
| Court |
>>>called me an azzhole,then an effing azzhole. Ever been called "esoteric" by an irate citizen? At least you knew what she meant.  | ||
| Slaughter |
azzhole,then an effing azzhole Sounds like she got to know you pretty well in a pretty short time! | ||
| Court |
>>>azzhole,then an effing azzhole I can only imagine how it must hurt to have an irate citizen call you by the same name your friends do. . . what was she thinking? | ||
| Ebear |
She musta' caught us on a day we were being NICE to him............  PS..Fmj...what was it you were asking me at the party? Did you see the cool poster I got? And did Dave get ahold of you??? | ||
| M2nc |
I have sat idle through this whole what-not. The folks writing in are much more experienced with Buell and the community of Buell, than I. The issue I have with attacking the annon policy on Badweb is that I do not want to see true BMC members quit participating on Badweb. I do not know how much participation they have on other boards, but for a motorcycle group to have this much access to the manufacturer is exceptional, and I will take the occasional errand comment from an annon than silence of BMC. I can get silence from Honda thank you. I agree with FT B. The comments made by Annon on this thread were minor at best. If it was a BMC employee, I agree it was not in the best of business practices, but hardly a full thrashing that some with their own agendas have made it out to be. Like Pup, there are several that only frequent Badweb these days to stir the pot, and they are shocked that those of us that are here for more are smart enough to see it and call them on it. Pup is only one, but there are a few more on this thread that are as transparent as glass. Those with agendas against Buell, Badweb and Blake are like your worst relative walking into your house unannounced and with muddy shoes. Only purpose is to cause trouble and have the audacity to be offended when you call them on it. It is sad that such a great event as a totally new line of bikes by Buell has to smeared by the want-nots. I'll get off my soap box now. | ||
| Kenneth |
Shoot... I can't believe there are one hundred and thirty something posts to this thread and I still don't know the Barber lap times. How disappointing... | ||
| Buellshyter |
Shoot... I can't believe there are one hundred and thirty something posts to this thread and I still don't know the Barber lap times. How disappointing... Now, that IS funny  | ||
| Slaughter |
1:31.038 (or am I bluffing?) | ||
| Slaughter |
OK OK OK so I AM bluffing but you said you WANTED a time... that's about what I figured a quick-ish time ought to be from Spies' track record. | ||
| Jimidan |
Daveguess sez: If I recall correctly Jimi has been on a few threads calling out things he thinks are wrong about how Buell does business, the metric fastener thing and the "All HD dealer should be Buell dealers" are two I remember. Dave I suggest that you re-read those post and I challenge you to show me where I did anything wrong, according to the rules of engagement on this board. According to the rules, I have the right to state my opinion on such matters as a Buell enthusiast and a repeat customer, as long as I do it in a courteous manner with supporting reasoning. Those rules state that you or Anony, or whoever, have the right to disagree, as long as you do it in the same manner. The problem isn't that Anony and I (or whomever) disagreed on these issues, but rather that he jumped off the topic quickly and started making personal attacks. Well, while we are all feeling warm and fuzzy, I still cannot allow you (Dave) to mischaracterize my post...I did not say that Buell was "wrong" about anything concerning the way they do business. Have I posed questions about how and why they did something, like design a mix and match bike with the new 1225R? Sure. Have I posted my opinion on how things could be done better? Sure. And when I received a less than cordial (to put it nicely) answer from Anony that I thought was a bit thin on the logic and reasoning, I responded to his post in kind with further observations and questions. What is wrong with that? Isn't that what this board was designed for? Nobody has to agree on this board, but the rules say that it must be done in a cordial manner. What we have seen here is that some are above the rules, just so long as their opinions are politically correct with the consensus of moderators. If anybody has been rude in my exchanges with Anony, it has been him. I stay within the rules of engagement and do NOT get nasty with name calling and such things. I did not deserve any of the rude and offensive language that Anony dished out, and I think Erik will agree. jimidan | ||
| Crusty |
Yeah, yeah. I didn't do nothin'. He started it. It's not my fault. I'm innocent.  | ||
| Jimidan |
See, that is what I am talking about, there Crusty. Nobody was even talking to you or about you, and here you are taunting, like a school kid on the playground. But the challenge goes out to you to. We do not have to speculate, the record is right there in plain English in black and whi...green. I also challenge anyone to ascribe to me an "agenda", as Carlos puts it. (Message edited by jimidan on July 24, 2007) | ||
| Blake |
Thank you Steve! Some folks need to take a break from BadWeB and spend some time over at www.BickerWebBikers.com until they get the excess estrogen out of their system, and that is a clear insult to all women. SHEESH! FYI: When I created this thread, I had no expectation that anonymi would commence answering the questions here online. My original intent was to collect all the good questions and submit them to Erik Buell and associates for their consideration. When anonymi commenced answering online, I was quite surprised and pleased as it saved me a bunch of work. Jim, Being called a name in relative obscurity is pretty benign compared to being publicly impugned as dishonorable/dishonest, especially when it is by the same ignorant jerk who belittles and naysays relentlessly anything positive about that which you may hold dear, the product of your work for instance. For example, consider your patient. In lieu of the situation you described, how would you feel after enduring months and months and months of her coming to BadWeB day in and day out and posting belittling and derisive commentary about your work, how you do it poorly, and painting as inferior/substandard your work product? How would you feel when she took to implying that nothing you say is credible? How would you feel when she invaded most every thread involving your positive accomplishments in order to poo all over it, a real bring down artist? Tell me honestly after enough of that that you wouldn't feel justified in laying a couple poignant verbal barbs into her. I just wish I had taken decisive action wrt the jerk a long time ago. The great news is that I was fortunate enough to spend some time talking on the phone to Erik today and got some great stuff to share concerning the 1125R. It turns out that what some were hinting at has been true all along. Buell is apparently involved in a corporate conspiracy that threatens much of humanity. Beware the okra! Beware the pods! Are you safe? I don't think so. You've been warned! More later... "For Those About to Rock!'... (Message edited by blake on July 25, 2007) | ||
| Firemanjim |
Remember what your mother always told you--if you cannot say anything nice, don't say anything. Still think a concise, well-worded, skewering with some esoteric jewels of the english language would have done so much more. (That was for Court) | ||
| Slaughter |
Okra... Pods... OH MY GAWD!!! OKRA ARE PODS!!! RUN AWAYYYYY!!! | ||
| Gregtonn |
"It's a clear grey area," Reep, Don't know if was intentional but it made me smile. Smiles were a little hard to find through most of this thread. Greg;) | ||
| Bigblock |
Actually, Jimidan, you DID address Crusty, and every other person who ever visits this site, when you posted here. No surprise you get a response. And, why should you take it personally, he didn't address you directly. And calling the 1125R a mix and match bike sounds pretty darn insulting to me, have you even seen the bike yet, or heard it run, let alone examined and ridden it? Where are your "reasonings" to support these "opinions"? I have seen the bike, and sat on it, and heard it run. Seemed pretty darn awesome to me. Very well thought out, planned and executed, not a "mix and match" exercise in the least, by any stretch of the imagination. | ||
| Bigblock |
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| Bigblock |
of course, getting involved in these threads makes me feel like this  | ||
| Bigblock |
...or doing this...  | ||
| Bigblock |
what can I say, it brings out the  in me | ||
| Jimidan |
"Anonymous {Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:30 am: -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Almost 100% metric this time. Only a small number of legacy parts. So I guess it's still "mix and match"." Bigblock, I guess you haven't been paying much attention to current posts, but that was NOT my terminology, but Anonymous's very own. It is in reference to the 1125R "still" having both metric and SAE fasteners. But your post illustrates perfectly what I was saying about folks jumping in with both feet and making wild assumptions based on nothing more than the poopy mood that they are obviously in at the time. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. BTW, Is that middle finger directed at me? I have no problem with folks posting as long as they follow the rules of the board and be thoughtful and respectful...that is my understanding of what the board is here for. Your posts do not seem to meet this criteria, as it seems to me that you are making a personal attack, but I am not a moderator. Have a nice day!  | ||
| Jimidan |
Pithy good. |
