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Anonymous
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 09:09 pm: |
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We will never make everyone happy, guaranteed. However, we want to build the best motorcycles for our customers, friends, and ourselves as we know how. In this case, after literally two decades of effort, we were able to get an engine made to our specifications for a no-compromise street sport bike. You are absolutely free not to buy it, not to like it, or to even decide that it's not American enough for you. However, you may have a very long wait until you find an affordable performance motorcycle that is more American than the 1125R, a machine that was designed, tested, and built in the US, with as many world-class US parts as we could find. Unlike a GSX-R1000, it is not a racer replica, and we did not design it as the basis of a race bike. But we did design it for performance, and you might be surprised on which of the two bikes a certain GP rider turned his best lap times on. Usable performance isn't necessarily about making the most peak horsepower. |
Jfox
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 09:26 pm: |
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Fair enough and I agree with your assessment of Racer replica bikes,mine is torture after half an hour.I like everything I see on 1125 except the made in Austria part. If this helps sales to the point where you can afford to build the next gen engine here then iI GUESS It is a good thing.I will be waiting. |
Ithaca280
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 09:28 pm: |
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Jfox, your busted, I'll bet you drive a Jap car. Until you own a Buell, you just would not understand. |
Jfox
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 09:30 pm: |
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Chevy truck |
Court
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 09:34 pm: |
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>>>I own a an FXRS BECAUSE it is made in the US, A mind is a terrible thing to waste. |
Ithaca280
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 09:35 pm: |
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Jfox, your busted, I'll bet you drive a Jap car. Until you own a Buell, you just would not understand. |
Jfox
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 09:43 pm: |
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Court, I don't understand your comment , I do however admit to partial Dain Bramage |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:05 pm: |
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I think the fallacy of the argument is the assumption that just because the first few years of a part or component are outsourced non-domestically that they will ALWAYS be outsourced non-domestically. Sometimes you have to borrow resident talent from the best most cost effective source in order to bring a product to market. Economies of scale dictate profitability. It wouldn't make sense to build a brand new 100,000 sq ft facility with 1,000 people in it for 3,000 bikes. There'd be a whole lot of folks standing around with their thumbs in their butts. As production increases and economies of scale provide that it is more cost effective to bring it in house, I can't imagine that Buell wouldn't bring the production state side. How would that be any different than Aprilia? Would anyone say that the affiliation with Rotax was a bad thing for Aprilia? For two days, I rode with a guy who had a really nice Falco. I prayed to the Buell gods that an engine something like it had would appear in the XB frame. Thank you Buell gods. Now I'd like a pony. Or Jessica Biel. |
Doz
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:15 pm: |
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Ft_bstrd now your busted, you'd put a pony before Jessica Biel? At least you've got the right outlook on the rotax. But I am for buying american whenever I can! |
Court
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:17 pm: |
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Didn't Bimota pretty much "outsource" their motors? In fact, what the hell happened to Bimota? Remember when they were the company Buell should aspire to be more like? Maybe they got bought by Excelsior-Henderson or Indian. . . . I can't keep up. |
Jfox
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:18 pm: |
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Well stated and in the case of Jessica I don't care where she was made. I likey |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:20 pm: |
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Doz, Asking for a Pony was like begging the Buell gods for the V-Rod engine in a Buell. It's only because we didn't expect them to deliver dead sexy like Jessica Biel. I'm hoping history will repeat itself! |
Bigeasy
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:23 pm: |
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I believe a company in China bought them. |
Indy_bueller
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:24 pm: |
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How about Jessica Biel ON a pony? |
Paint_shaker
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:34 pm: |
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Jfox wrote; "I own a an FXRS BECAUSE it is made in the US..." I am fairly certain there are parts on your FXRS that are NOT made in the US... Have you checked your Harelywear lately?? Seems the "US MADE" MoCo outsources A LOT of their H-D Wear... An example; my licensed H-D labeled jacket was made in Indonesa... My licensed H-D labeled helmet was made in Korea... Ah, Chevy... didn't Cameros and Firebirds get made in Canada?? |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:39 pm: |
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Where was the New GTO from? |
4cammer
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 11:00 pm: |
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and where is the new Camaro being built? Last I heard Canada, though that may have changed by now. |
Anonymous
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 11:03 pm: |
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If you all remember, Bimota got cocky and thought they could build their own engine - and that major screw-up put them out of business for a number of years... |
Paint_shaker
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 11:14 pm: |
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Qoute from a recent MotorTrend article, putting the Toyota Tundra vs a Chevy P/U; "Did You Know? America's truck is built in Canada, the U.S., and Mexico." Same article speaks of the AMERICAN MADE Toyota built in Texas..... But I quess a Chevy is an American truck, as it is made in NORTHERN America.... Go figure... To the BUELL factory people lurking in here; You guys did an excellent job with the new 1125!! Great steps forward for BUELL. Keep up the great work!!!! (Message edited by Paint shaker on July 19, 2007) |
Diablobrian
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 11:56 pm: |
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hmmm so a GP rider turned a faster lap at Barber on the 1125r (making the assumption based on the above statement) Interesting...very interesting |
Rocketsprink
| Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 06:13 am: |
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Name one product that is 100 percent American made. Good luck with that. Few and far between. I'd rather have a Rotax motor in my bike than the fat pig, underpowered, over sized V-Rod brick. |
Barker
| Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 08:14 am: |
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My chevy pick up was 85% made in canada. Its a foreign car. |
Firebolt020283
| Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 08:27 am: |
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as an american soldier i can still honestly say my uniform is. Made in america every single part of it unless it is something that i went out and bought from somewere that is not actually standard issue stuff. But everything (as for as uniform goes) is made in the USA i always check. |
Firebolt020283
| Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 08:47 am: |
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colt weapons systems, oakley sunglasses, moon pies, wolverine/bates boots and shoes, skillcraft products. and im sure there is more but i know those things are made 100% in the USA at least that is the claim by those companys. |
Mikej
| Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 09:22 am: |
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If you thumb thru the pics here you'll find Gloria O'Brian on a Buell where she stunt-doubled for Jessica Biel. Images 2 & 16 of 26. http://uk.imdb.com/gallery/hh/0639574/iid_935592.j pg.html?seq=20 (assuming the link works) Nice stuff. So is the 1125R. |
Mm128
| Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 09:48 am: |
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IF... its got parts from AUSTRIA... I would NOT be concerned.. I carry a GLOCK .40 cal ON DUTY and OFF, which IF your familiar with their REPUTATION are make there. They make some GOOD Stuff. Just my .02 worth... The GLOCK may not be a Buell... But I carry mine while i ride the BUELL Matt. |
Buellerandy
| Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 10:53 am: |
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Laaauuul! Go Ahnauld! I love my Glock 21. |
Frequency
| Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 10:54 am: |
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as an american soldier i can still honestly say my uniform is. Made in america every single part of it unless it is something that i went out and bought from somewere that is not actually standard issue stuff. But everything (as for as uniform goes) is made in the USA i always check. thats US law though, guy in PA just got in big trouble b/c he outsourced patch production overseas |
Yohinan
| Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:14 am: |
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"Rocketsprink - Name one product that is 100 percent American made. Good luck with that. Few and far between. I'd rather have a Rotax motor in my bike than the fat pig, underpowered, over sized V-Rod brick." I can name tons and tons. Then again I am more US made concerned then 99 percent of the US population. Do I pay an arm and a leg for the stuff I buy? Yup. Do I expect the quality of US made products to be the best in quality? Yup. Are they always the best in quality? Nope, but the majority of the time they are. Are there occasions where I am forced to buy something not made in the US? Yup. My Buell is a perfect example. US made products are out there for most of the stuff you buy. It's just putting the time in to research who you have to buy from to find the stuff. You dont want to know how much time I spend finding items to buy. Car parts are interesting as I am not able to browse the parts behind the counter myself. Soooo, the NAPA employees hate when I walk in because they know that if they have a part with many options they will be pulling everyone to find the one I will purchase. Regular (clothing, electronics, tools etc..) stores are not bad as I can look at labels myself. Mail/Internet ordering is another interesting challenge. I have not always been this way but in the not so distant past I changed my purchasing habits for more reasons that I or you all care to read about right now. Edit: One more thing that just came up in my head. The reason most people think it's hard to find US made products if for two reasons MOST of the time. 1) They chose not to really look, and 2) If they do find it their not willing to pay for it. That is why the mass influx of foreign items are have made their way here. That and a lot of other reasons but again, gotta stop typing. (Message edited by yohinan on July 20, 2007) |
Midknyte
| Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:33 am: |
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How about Jessica Biel ON a pony? That was the first thing to pop into my mind too, but coming from Ft_bstrd, my mind juxtaposed a pony on Jessica Biel... |
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