| Author | Message | ||
     Pushrodpete |
...or is it mix & match time again??? | ||
| Anonymous |
Almost 100% metric this time. Only a small number of legacy parts. So I guess it's still "mix and match". | ||
| Spiderman |
crap! Now I gotta stock up on metric tools  LOL | ||
| Mikej |
Only the ones that don't have a close inch match  , probably cheaper to buy a complete set though. | ||
| Court |
>>>Now I gotta stock up on metric tools No need. . . you can borrow my metrics!  | ||
| Trojan |
Almost 100% metric this time. Hoorah!! Most of Buell's European customers will be jumping for joy! | ||
| Jimidan |
I think the operative word here is "almost"...which is the fly in the ointment when it comes to packing tools for a trip. That is like almost being pregnant. There ought to be a law that says a bike (or any motorized vehicle) has to be one or the other. Was this decision based on the cost-cutting by HD bean counters too  . Hardly a reason to celebrate, Trojan Man! Court: There will never be a monkey touching my bikes with one of those... It may be OK for those guys who keep all their tools in the spare kitchen drawer, but not me.  | ||
| Jackbequick |
Actually, it is easier to do the inch stuff with metric tools than it is to do the metric stuff with inch tools. That's because the metrics go up in 1mm (.040") steps whereas the inch stuff goes up by 1/16" (.063") steps. All numbers are rounded, some exceptions apply for the few and far between things that go up by 1/32" (.031") or 1/64" (.016"). Arguments with machinists will not be entertained. :>) Jack | ||
| Trojan |
Hardly a reason to celebrate, Trojan Man! My celebration is due to the fact that metric tools are for more common in Europe than imperial ones, and most motorcyclists over here will have a good selection of metric tools already without having to go through the old 'Buell buying experience' of having to buy another full tool kit to go with it. In Europe nobody uses imperial size fasteners any more so it is definitley good news. All we need is to get rid of the last remaining 'inch' fasteners and I'll be even happier. | ||
| Spiderman |
Arguments with machinists will not be entertained. :>) Damn! LOL This coulda got fun ;) | ||
| Paintballtommy |
i wish everyone would jsut standardize on metric... would make everything soooo much easier. | ||
| Anonymous |
Jimidan, If you have to pack all the tools for every fastener on your trips, I suggest you take up a simpler sport. Like canoeing. | ||
| Djkaplan |
Zing! | ||
| Djkaplan |
"i wish everyone would jsut standardize on metric... would make everything soooo much easier." All the drives for your metric sockets would still be 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2". Ironic. | ||
| Paintballtommy |
wierd never thought of that. what do they use overseas for drive size? | ||
| Mikej |
We're not supposed to ask that question. ;) | ||
| Paintballtommy |
Zing! hahaha i jsut caught that. gotta love snl | ||
| Cheesebeast |
The Metric System??? A suspicious system perpetrated by charlatans! Can anyone help me figure out how many leagues per hogshead this newfangled machine will get? (Message edited by cheesebeast on July 19, 2007) | ||
| Jackbequick |
League - Three miles. Hogshead - 64.9 U.S. Gallons. The 1125R will be assumed to get 37.5 MPG (U.S.) until a more definitive answer is obtained. The 1125R has a capacity of 5.6 U.S. Gallons and a 0.8 Gallon reserve capacity. The average rider will use 1/2 the reserve before filling up, giving fillups of 6.0 gallons. A hogshead will supply 10.8 tankfuls. At (6*37.5) or 225 miles per tank, you will be getting 2,433.75 miles or 811.25 leagues per hogshead. Jack | ||
| Bobbuell1961 |
what to do with all my whitworth tools?? | ||
| Jackbequick |
"..All the drives for your metric sockets would still be 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2". Ironic..." The square drive fittings on wrenches, despite being denominated in inches, are international standards and no "metric" counterparts exist. Even the most rabid metriphobes realized that changing the size of those or forcing the world to call for them as 6.25mm, 9.525mm, 12.7mm, and 19.05mm would have been unnecessary and unreasonable. But changing all the measuring systems in the entire world to a system based on the length of a chunk of metal stored in a vault in Paris, France was not too much trouble to take. The actual size of a metre, the base unit for length in the metric system, was revised four times in the ensuing years. The length of the piece of metal in the vault in Paris was further invalidated with each revision. We have one of those chunks of metal here in the U.S. too. If anyone remembers where it is. It was given to us as a gift by the folks in Paris. The gram, the base unit for mass, is on its second revision. It is one thousandth of the weight of "an object" in a vault in Paris, France. The "object" is not further described, it cannot be seen or handled by mere mortals. The primary advantage of the metric system, as far as I can see, is that it allows people to do math on their fingers if they had a full and normal allotment. Sometimes I think it is too simple, that it invites mental errors and sloppy work. Nations with atrophying brains and industrial might are slowly but surely having metrification rammed down their throats by people with a missionary zeal for "my way or no way" that makes radical muslims look easy going and compliant. The last three holdouts on implementing full national metrification are the United States of America, Liberia, and Myanmar. We might be one of the last peoples of the earth that will be able to remember and conceptualize in subsets of numbers, other than 0 through 9, that are important to many facets of everyday life. An example. I bought a lathe and a milling machine and starting making things of various sizes (metric and Imperial) to build, rebuild, and repair objects new and old. That the machines I had used Imperial measurement as their basis for measuring, made it easier to do the work that it would have been if I had had metric machines. Doing the metric work on inch machines was much easier than doing the inch work on metric machines. Metric machines are best used in shops that do only metric work. That is but one example of why practice can invalidate what appears to be sound in theory. The metric system is a good system. It is not the one perfect system for everything. Jack | ||
| Ratbuell |
I just hope we get rid of some of the break-o-matic Torx fittings.....if you must use inside-out fasteners...Allen, please? | ||
| 46champ |
Jack Your a smart man for seeing through this travesty that is being fostered upon us by the internationalists. | ||
| Jimidan |
Anony, If you have to pack all the tools for every fastener on your trips, I suggest you take up a simpler sport. Like canoeing. I take lots of trips on my Buell (just got back from 2 weeks in CO) and I try to be prepared for most situations, which means I pack as many tools as practicable for as many fasteners as I can. The fact is, one never knows what they will need when out on the road and it sure doesn't help, when space is at a premium, that there are both standard and metric fasteners on a bike. In spite of your attempt at levity, you know this better than I. I DO kayak and canoe, and let me explain to you, since you do not seem to know, that the equipment necessary to do either is much more extensive and complex than riding a sportbike. We are often really in the wilderness when we travel by boat, not just out on the side of a public roadway. I carry water, first aid kit, throw ropes, floatation, tool kit (not mix and match...these boats are all American made), extra break-down paddle, emergency space blanket, energy food, extra clothing, fire starter, etc. So, as you can see, it is not quite as simple as you may have thought...or (jokingly?) inferred. There still should be a law requiring "American" motor vehicles to be all one kind of tools, since the industry seems unable to regulate itself on this matter. It certainly appears to be a cost cutting measure...agreed? That obviously isn't a problem with imports...a lesson that should be learned by domestics. Being stuck out on the road because you don't have the proper tool is no laughing matter. | ||
| Jimidan |
Zing! Zing my butt, dj. | ||
| Brad1445 |
The unfortunate high number of times my 06 Ulysses has stranded me has traumatized me into not wanting to stray to far from a toolbox. I can see how this is a valid question in particular for those that that travel rural areas where you often find the best scenery. | ||
| Jlnance |
There still should be a law requiring "American" motor vehicles to be all one kind of tools, since the industry seems unable to regulate itself on this matter. The use of metric & SAE sizes is not nearly as irritating as the use of different bolt heads. We have Torx and Allen and Hex head. Unfortunately we make extensive use of T-27 Torx bolts, which is a difficult size to find drivers for. I guess I'm doing ok if thats my worst problem.  | ||
| Phat_j |
"..All the drives for your metric sockets would still be 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2". i also have in my tool box 3/4, and even 1" drives..... now to really blow your mind, i also have a set of snap on ratchets that are none of those sizes. i've never actually measured them to see what size they are, but they are ww2 collector items.... they were made so that if the enemey got ahold of them they couldnt use them.... they arent good for anything except saying i have some rare shit... lol | ||
| Djkaplan |
"Zing my butt, dj." Oooooooooo...   | ||
| Cheesebeast |
Jackbequick, 811.25 Leagues per Hogshead! Remind me to buy you an (imperial) pint if we ever meet! |
