| Author | Message | ||
     Bobup |
In the specs it says they are manually canceled. When will you go to self canceling turn signals? too many of us forget for a block or more...LOL | ||
| Dick8008 |
Yes!!! At least once a ride I leave the friggen signal on. Feel like an @ss when I realize it. | ||
| Jimidan |
If you have ever ridden on an S2 (the last great machine Erik designed before the HD bean-counters go involved after the take-over) you will really appreciate what self-cancelling turn signals mean. It is wonderful...but don't expect them on the newer bikes, as they cost money. jimidan | ||
| M1combat |
BAH!!! That's like having electric windows in an F40... | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
God gave me a really nice signal canceler. It's even opposable.  | ||
| Iamike |
Do you forget to put the sidestand up too? Oh yeah, they already have a switch on that. | ||
| Anonymous |
Sorry, jimi, I can guarantee Erik wouldn't agree with you about the S2! The S2 was very cool, but Erik owns more XBs than tubers, and the 1125 is the fulfillment of a 20 year dream for him. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
That's ok. Jimidan believes the 1986 Chevy Caprice was the best automobile every made. | ||
| Chadhargis |
The 1125R has a highly efficient, bio-computer controlled turn signal canceling system. Here's a schematic:  | ||
| Firemanjim |
Aw come on guys I have seen the little bitty box on my S-2 that is the self canceling box, cannot really be that much. And they are such a nice feature on my S-2 it's hard to believe the newer bikes do not have em.It is certainly not old school. And don't go bad mouthing the S-2--you guys have not hooked me into buying a new bike since purchasing my S-2 in 1995. | ||
| Diablobrian |
The s2 even has hazard flasher capabilities doesn't it? | ||
| Reepicheep |
Maybe Garmin can put a signal cancelling feature in the new Zumo. Heck, it can even put your signal on for you before you turn. (And though I wrote this as a joke, it actually sounds like kind of a fun hack...) | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
If you really want self cancelling turn signals you could buy kit like this and install it on you bike its only $63.00 http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Signal_Dynamic s_Self-Canceling_Turn_Signal_Module--62-SIGD-6.htm l (not trying to advertise just trying to show there is kits you can buy to fix this) | ||
| Court |
>>>The s2 even has hazard flasher capabilities doesn't it? It does and they are wonderful. Without the S-2 . . . there would be no XB or 1125R. The S-2 is an incredible bike. Court | ||
| Garrett2 |
i do wish we had emergency flasher capability (my 99 s3 doesnt have it) | ||
| Sarodude |
I must be one of very few people who HATES Harley's self cancelling turn signals as well as the right hand left hand concept. The right hand is busy with a couple of primary controls - throttle and brake. While braking and matching revs I don't want to contort my hand any further to hit the effing turn signal. We've got 4 bikes like this - and only one of them is the S2. It SUCKS on the S2 and the Harleys. I also don't like machines making decisions for me unless I set up the decision making algorythm. I have to work to stay ahead of the stupid self cancelling dealies 'cause I don't like whomever's idea of what a good time is to stop blinking. Speaking of - does anyone know of left hand only non cancelling turn signal stuff I can use on the annoyatrons? -Saro | ||
| Mikej |
"Without the S-2 . . . there would be no XB or 1125R. " I suspect that there's a story to tell there, I'll wait to hear about it sometime.  | ||
| Mikej |
In fact, I'll make you a deal, (one of those things I've always wanted to do someday) | ||
| Court |
Hey . . .no problem. In fact, if you want, maybe I'll pull a "Music under the Streets" permit and we'll play in the subway. I'm on a bit of a "12 String Sidetrack" of late and have found that the Allman Brothers "Melissa" sounds killer in a subway station. Don't ask.  | ||
| Mikej |
I'll start working on my wife to bring her accordian along, might take awhile though. One of my goals is to work up a non-Polka sounding Jazz/Blues Guitar/Accordian duet that I've had running around in my mind for a few years now. She doesn't know about it yet, might take awhile though for that too. Lunchtime, off to the used bookstore to try and score the Django Reinhart (sp?) CD set they had there last week. Somehow this relates to self-cancelling turn signals, trust me.  | ||
| Jimidan |
It SUCKS on the S2 and the Harleys. I also don't like machines making decisions for me unless I set up the decision making algorythm. I have to work to stay ahead of the stupid self cancelling dealies 'cause I don't like whomever's idea of what a good time is to stop blinking. The machine is not making the decision on WHEN to employ the turn signals though...you are. The turn signal canceling is connected directly to the speedometer, so they stay on for a consistent and perfectly predictable length of pavement. If you can't figure out the simple algorithm of this, I don't think you should be bandying about terms like "stupid".  } | ||
| Jimidan |
The S-2 is an incredible bike. You ought to see how incredible it is with 88 cubes...then you would know how over-designed structurally it is also. Stability in motion. | ||
| Jimidan |
Anony sez: "Sorry, jimi, I can guarantee Erik wouldn't agree with you about the S2! The S2 was very cool, but Erik owns more XBs than tubers, and the 1125 is the fulfillment of a 20 year dream for him." I do not doubt that Erik has more XB's than tubers, but I will bet he still has an S2 (if not, he should!). I also do not contest that the 1125R is the fulfillment of a 20 year dream come true. I will even go one further in saying that it represents the culmination of all of his experiences, as did the S2 in its own time. What I said was that the S2 was "...the last great machine Erik designed before the HD bean-counters got involved after the take-over." This does not counter anything that is stated above by you or me. I realize that the S2 is a decade old design, but it is still ahead of its time and unheard of for a production streetbike in its day (custom hand made sexy fiberglass bodywork, hand-welded cromoly [Ducatiesque] steel frame, WP shock and USD forks, Marchesini wheels, PM front brake, Brembo rear brake, isolators that worked, etc.). Although admittedly, from a fit-and-finish and quality control standpoint, the new generation XBs are superior (but not necessarily from the subjective quality of "ride" standpoint). Once HD bought 98% of the company, the S3, M2, X1 and BLAST were the inferior products that the bean counters allowed to be produced, with their cheap shocks and forks, isolators that shredded, and recalls after recalls, that very nearly took down the company. NOT a good thing. But I still think that the self-cancelling turn-signals would have been a good thing on the 1125R. I am seriously thinking about selling off a number of my bikes to buy the 1125...but not my S2! I guess I will just have to buy the kit and install them on it myself. jimidan | ||
| Blake |
Some folks have a way of bending reality to their own vision that is truly amazing. | ||
| Sarodude |
Jimidan- The different bikes I ride with the self cancelers all behave differently. I shouldn't have to work so hard to get a system to reduce the amount of work I'm supposed to do. I'd rather do it myself. Again, even worse than the self canceling is the left hand / right hand deal. That is just plain bad. However, just like the POS Qwiksilver carb on my CA S2, they're things that give it character and things that won't be changing. -Saro | ||
| Court |
That's patently inaccurate information. Gads. . . I'm sitting in a library writing about them today, have a fairly impressive collection of research data from a variety of sources and somehow missed all that. One very interesting fact came to light about Buell recalls yesterday. Recalls are one of the most impressive elements of Buells glorious history. I'd urge you to study your sources as carefully as I do mine. Court | ||
| Mikej |
I actually kind of like the left hand right hand separate switches. I personally find the M2's turn signal switch in a somewhat awkward location for me when trying to cancel it or turning the left signal on. Can't say I really appreciate the horn switch locations on either the M2 or S2 though because I either end up turning on the turn signal or hitting the starter button when aiming for the horn button without looking first. Reality is always bent to personal perception. | ||
| Jackbequick |
Remembering to turn them off is a learned reflex. I trained my reflex by resting my left thumb on the top of the grip after I selected a turn signal. It is slightly weird to use the clutch with the thumb atop the grip but it is an eminently doable thing. Anyway, with my thumb misplaced, I would complete a turn, notice my thumb was up there, then remember why, hit the turn signal cancel button, and put my thumb back where it belongs. At some point in the process I started hitting the cancel button after every turn. My 11 year old Dyna came stock with self canceling turn signals and they work fine. Now that I'm used to having them, I'll probably have to retrain myself for the next bike that does not have them. Jack | ||
| Diablobrian |
That canceller (linked above) says it specifically is NOT for the left side switches that must be pushed to cancel. So a different solution needs to be found. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
al has one on his site.it says it works on all buell models except the s2 http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/16052.html |
