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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2007/Jul/e/n070711r ule.htm

So Buell needs to build about 400 homologation specials with a 1200cc engine. How much would you pay? $20K? $30K?

If he wants to compete in World Superbike, he needs to build 600 more, which should drop the price a bit.

Speculation is FUN!
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Curtyd
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why wouldn't he/we/they just race the new 1125R? Why another more expensive bike other than just the performance penalty of 75 less cc's than the maximum allowed? I don't think there will be ANY problem making the 1000 motorcycles.

HECK, by the time they are in the showrooms I'll bet they have pre-sold a 1000 of them. I just hope they change the 2-cylinder size rules in time for the new bike to run in 2008, but a development year in other classes might provide a lot of great feedback, then they can up the cc's to 1200 for the 2009 model year.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unless my understanding is wrong (it happens), it qualifies as is.
Why would they need to go to 1200cc?
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I type slow
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Curtyd
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Imagine the fun of POD banging in traffic...
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hard to believe 75 extra cc would be worth the effort, but at that level of competition, it just might be. Of course, I never understood people going to the trouble and expense of installing new jugs and pistons on an XB12 just to get 50 cc for a street bike.
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yup, it qualifies as is. But Ducati will be coming out with a 1200cc version of the 1098 for World Superbike, so why should Buell go in with a displacement deficit? Grab every advantage you can!
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Macbuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I mentioned this on the XBoard earlier today but you could easily bump up the cc's to 1200, add an ohlins suspension and replace a lot of the plastics with carbon fibre and you have a nice race platform. I would guess the cost to be around $20K.
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For racing purposes you'd also want to replace the belt drive with a chain drive, simply because it's far easier to alter gearing for specific tracks that way.
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Hooligan
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And there lies another issue, tho I am sure they already have machined swing-arms to adjust the chain, at that level. would the Homoginized bikes need to be chain drive? that is a must to race to change gearing, tho with a torque curve (?) like they have it may not gain much...... lets wait and see, I know that is not in most Bueller's genetic make up : )
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Sarodude
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

75 ccs would be over 6%. In top level racing, lotsa effort is spent on much smaller gains.

The bike could be run as an 1125. They're just giving up 6%.

-Saro
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Tpoppa
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

75 ccs would be over 6%. In top level racing, lotsa effort is spent on much smaller gains.

Absolutely!
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