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Cgocifer
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 01:01 am: |
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I know, you want to know too!! HOW MUCH IS THE DARN THING?? A little bird told me it is way under $15,000. I NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH and if dealers are taking deposits. |
07xb12scg
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 01:27 am: |
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I'm willing to bet it's gonna be Ducati-like money. If so, how many of the "Ducatis cost too much money" crowd on this site will do an about face and then completely "forget" about ever saying that? |
Blake
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 02:52 am: |
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"I'm willing to bet it's gonna be Ducati-like money." How much. I'm all over that bet. Ten grand? And to clarify, we're talking about the 1098 price, yes? |
Metalstorm
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 02:57 am: |
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I'll wager somewhere in the current XB12X price range. Just my guestimate. |
Corporatemonkey
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 04:20 am: |
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My 2 cents is this thing will be in 1098 price point, maybe a little less. As for people complaining of Ducati's prices, rarely is the purchase price the complaint. It is the cost of maintenance, and insurance. |
Buellballs
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 05:26 am: |
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Buell insurance rates sucked before, I wonder how much more people will have to shell out for the extra power. |
Trojan
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 07:04 am: |
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It will have to compete with the Aprilia RSV, KTM's new sports bike (when it arrives) and the Ducati 1098 so I would expect the price to be in the same ball park as these bikes to be competitive. Maybe (hopefully) we'll see an even higher spec 'homologation special' similar to the Aprilia Factory and Ducati R models later that will ease the way into world class racing, with a higher price tag for those that want exclusivity and race ready performance. |
Court
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 07:36 am: |
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>>>I'm willing to bet it's gonna be Ducati-like money. That is a HIGHLY inaccurate statement. Ducati has just yielded the driver's seat. |
Spatten1
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 07:45 am: |
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I'm with Matt. Harley knows marketing, so the bike will probably be priced to move alongside comparable competitors. Harley charges way too much for those cruisers...because people keep paying for them. To me, Sportbike consumers tend to be a bit more pragmatic and less wrapped up in their personal image enhancement than the typical Harley buyer. I expect HD will recognize that and price it competitively. The air cooled models, like it or not, have a very desireable engine (HD) for many people, and cost much more than performance alone would dictate. |
Blake
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 02:58 pm: |
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The air cooled models, like it or not, have a very desireable engine (HD) for many people, and cost much more than performance peak HP alone would dictate. There, fixed it for ya. Interestingly enough, I'm sure the same exact thing, possibly minus the "much" will apply to the 1125R. When peak HP is the "only" factor dictating value of a sport bike, then there are a slim few choices warranting consideration, all of them great bikes. |
Mcgiver
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 03:09 pm: |
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I just got back from my dealer, I'm first on the list.How much$? Don't much care, i'm sure it will be worth it. Brian |
Spatten1
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 03:13 pm: |
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Good one Blake. |
Unibear12r
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 03:27 pm: |
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Price? I'm a bit more curious about Buell's (normal) production numbers! If you don't hit up your dealer by October you'll be lining up for the 09s. |
Jedipunk
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 03:29 pm: |
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I'm new to the board but I've been reading it for a while. The word I got at my dealer, before everyone left for the show, was $16k. I'm kinda irritated because I just bought an 07 xb12r. |
Frequency
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 03:47 pm: |
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I'm new to the board but I've been reading it for a while. The word I got at my dealer, before everyone left for the show, was $16k 16k? god i hope not, i see no reason for the price to go that high, the bike wouldn't move |
Jiffy
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 04:03 pm: |
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The 1098 is around $13k and Court says that it is not that much for the 1125R. I hope Court is right. It would be nice if the bike was $11k. That is what a Japanese liter bike is around $11k. That seems like a fair price to move a lot of new models out for Buell. |
Curtyd
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 04:06 pm: |
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"The word I got at my dealer, before everyone left for the show, was $16k." Typical HD Dealer "puffing", NO price even released yet so they pick the highest number they could think of at the time If we are lucky it will hit in the 11 to 12K range, but there will be plenty of the HD Dealers that will add 2 to 4K to that number at the beginning. You'd better find another dealer to shop at, RUN don't walk away from those guys... |
Blake
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 04:22 pm: |
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Interesting. Would it be wrong to assume that some dealers will likely price a hot new product well above MSRP. Obviously not based on the report above. |
Court
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 04:29 pm: |
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I'm gonna be unavailable here for a bit but the $16 is not accurate. Standby, I think you'll be amazed and thrilled. |
Unibear12r
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 04:39 pm: |
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I didn't think I'd be itching for a new Buell anytime so soon. But having a fourth one in the garage would be more than I can justify even to myself! But if the 1125 is priced around 11 to 12k I'll likely be powerless to resist. |
Spatten1
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 04:43 pm: |
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But if the 1125 is priced around 11 to 12k I'll likely be powerless to resist. Yeah, it is going to be very tough to resist. Damn you Buell. |
Xbullet
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 04:50 pm: |
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Interesting. Would it be wrong to assume that some dealers will likely price a hot new product well above MSRP. Obviously not based on the report above. hey, Harley did it in the late 90's with that imaginary "waiting list" they had for a new HD. wouldn't be surprised either if they did it with the new Buell. it sucks, but that's why they call it business instead of church. |
Mattwhite
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 04:51 pm: |
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It could actually help insurance. The problem with insurance for Buells is that the insurers look at displacement instead of HP. |
Thespive
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 04:56 pm: |
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I am 29 and my insurance is quite reasonable, $52.73/month, full coverage through State Farm. I don't see anything unreasonable about that at all. --Sean |
Jedipunk
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 05:01 pm: |
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I don't think there was any price puffing from my dealer as I'm an employee in the service dept. That was the word they got over the phone from an insider. I'm just waiting for my shop foreman to send pics or call me from the dealer show. I'm the buell nut at my dealer. hopefully they'll be sending me to school for the new one. |
Jedipunk
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 05:04 pm: |
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still, I hope its less |
Nodaclu
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 05:32 pm: |
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But if the 1125R is priced somewhere in the $12K range though, then that creates an interesting problem... The current 12R and 12S are priced at $10K $10.5K respectively. How many 2008 XB sales will the new bike cannibalize? I'm not saying it's right, but tons of people are going to look at this motor as a HUGE step up for only a $1,500 price premium. If the 1125R is priced at $12K, it seems like the 2008 XB prices will have to drop some to create enough space for the XB's to continue to sell in any appreciable numbers. |
Darkducati
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 05:34 pm: |
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$11,995!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Jlnance
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 05:51 pm: |
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If the 1125R is priced at $12K, it seems like the 2008 XB prices will have to drop some to create enough space for the XB's to continue to sell in any appreciable numbers. If that happens then it would make sense to discontinue the current XBs. But I don't think it will. There are certainly a lot of people who will prefer this bike to an XB. But there are a lot of people who would never look at an XB right now, who will because the 1150r exists. |
Nodaclu
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 05:54 pm: |
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2008 models are up on Buell's website. XB9R is dropped. The rest of the lineup appears to be unchanged. Prices are unchanged, except CityX increases by $200 to $8,895. I'm honestly surprised by this. I'll be curious to see what the XB sales look like for the 08 model year compared to previous years. I know they're two completely different bikes but $500 difference between a Uly and the 1125R? Crazy. |
07xb12scg
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 06:28 pm: |
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If it is $11,995 then I was completely wrong. And if it is this price I will be blown away really. Just from the numbers it seems like you get a ton more performance, albeit a different type of performance, for not much more money. What I'm really interested in are the changes to the air cooled models. The engine certainly looks a little different, but I didn't detect anything else with my quick visit to Buell.com |
Sshbsn
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 06:45 pm: |
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I'm unsure why everybody thinks the 1125 and XB will compete for sales?? They seem so different to me... Ducati is an obvious and well known comparison. The guy who goes in to look at a monster isn't going to want a 1098, it doesn't fit his needs and wants. Similarly, a guy who buys a 1098 wouldn't have a monster. I think the new bike is terrific, and I'm extremely proud of Buell. Look at all they've accomplished in such a short company lifespan! Aprilia and KTM sport bikes seem to have received rave reviews, and I think this new Buell will top them in performance coupled with usability. The 1098 doesn't seem to be quite as good as expected, from what I've read, so I am certain that the 1125 will be a better choice. However, for me, the XB12R will always be the perfect bike. No comparison, ergo no competition between the two. They are just very different. |
Thespive
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 06:55 pm: |
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The XB12R is $9,995 now, $500 less than last year, and I personally think XB sales will go up because of the increased foot traffic in to showrooms to see the 1125R. And the 1125 IS $11,995, it is posted on the Buell site. --Sean |
Altima02
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 07:00 pm: |
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Yeah, the 1125 may eat into 12R sales, but not so much the other models. I really love the new 1125, but since I can only afford one bike right now, the 9S is more my style and practical for my riding. |
07xb12scg
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 10:41 pm: |
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I'm unsure why everybody thinks the 1125 and XB will compete for sales?? The R and the XB are on the same showroom floor and they will probably be sitting next to each other so they will be competing for sales. For some the price will be the deciding factor and others will want the most performance and then there are people who may even have another deciding factor in mind, but these bikes will compete. |
Pinball
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 11:15 pm: |
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website say`s $ 11995.00 that`s $13599 Canadian,new Ducati hyper motard S will be $13900 cdn. My problem is that the nearst Buell dealer is 4 hours away and ducati is 45 mins. (Message edited by pinball on July 08, 2007) |
Unibear12r
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 11:16 pm: |
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The 1125 will eat into the 12Rs sales a bit but there are reasons for many to choose it over the 1125. Besides the 12R has paid for it's tooling and likely provides a much higher profit per bike than the 1125. |
Disturbed
| Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 04:41 am: |
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MSRPDimensionsEngineDrivetrainChassisElectricStyli ng/ConvenienceColorsWarranty MSRP U.S. Units Metric Units Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (1) $11,995 $11,995 Top of Page Dimensions U.S. Units Metric Units Overall Length (2) 78.6 in. 1996 mm Overall Width (3) 28.2 in. 716 mm Seat Height: Standard (4) 30.5 in. 775 mm Low Profile N/A N/A Ground Clearance (2) 4.5 in. 114 mm Rake (at Steering Head) (4) 21.0° 21.0° Fork Angle (4) 21.0° 21.0° Lean Angle: Soft Contact, Right (5) 48° 48° Soft Contact, Left (5) 48° 48° Hard Contact, Right (5) 50° 50° Hard Contact, Left (5) 50° 50° Trail (4) 3.3 in. 84 mm Wheelbase (2) 54.6 in. 1387 mm Tires: Type (6) Pirelli® Pirelli® Front Diablo Corsa III (model) Diablo Corsa III (model) 120/70 ZR-17 (specifications) 120/70 ZR-17 (specifications) Rear Diablo Corsa III (model) Diablo Corsa III (model) 180/55 ZR-17 (specifications) 180/55 ZR-17 (specifications) Fuel Capacity 5.6 gal. 21.2 L Reserve Fuel Capacity 0.8 gal. 3.0 L MPG (EPA urban/highway test) (7): Urban missing missing Highway missing missing Weight: Dry Weight 375 lbs. 170 kg Gross Rating 850 lbs. 386 kg Load Capacity 395 lbs. 179 kg Top of Page Engine U.S. Units Metric Units Engine Liquid-cooled 1125cc Helicon® V-Twin Liquid-cooled 1125cc Helicon® V-Twin Valve Train DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder, finger follower design & shimming DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder, finger follower design & shimming Bore x Stroke: Bore 4.055 in. 103.00 mm Stroke 2.658 in. 67.50 mm Displacement 68.7 cu. in. 1125 cc Compression Ratio 12.3:1 12.3:1 Fuel Delivery Dual 61 mm down draft throttle bodies, DDFI III fuel injection Dual 61 mm down draft throttle bodies, DDFI III fuel injection Intake (Air Cleaner for Blast®) Zero-resistance airbox, Pressurized RAM air intake Zero-resistance airbox, Pressurized RAM air intake Exhaust Tuned, tri-pass resonance chamber with integral helmholtz tuning and mass-centralized mounting Tuned, tri-pass resonance chamber with integral helmholtz tuning and mass-centralized mounting Torque (North America per SAE J607) 82 ft. lbs. @ 8000 RPM 111 NM @ 8000 RPM Horsepower (North America per SAE J607) 146 HP @ 9800 RPM 146 HP @ 9800 RPM Lubrication Dry-sump with integrated oil reservoir in lower crankcase Dry-sump with integrated oil reservoir in lower crankcase Oil Capacity (Lubrication for Blast®) 4.0 qts. 3.8 L Oil Filtration Disposable cartridge Disposable cartridge Top of Page Drivetrain U.S. Units Metric Units Primary Drive Helical Gear, 0.554:1 (36/65) ratio Helical Gear, 0.554:1 (36/65) ratio Final Drive (8) Constant path, 14 mm pitch aramid-reinforced Goodyear® Hibrex® belt with Flexten® Plus technology, 2.593:1 (70/27) ratio Constant path, 14 mm pitch aramid-reinforced Goodyear® Hibrex® belt with Flexten® Plus technology, 2.593:1 (70/27) ratio Clutch Wet, multi-plate, Hydraulic Vacuum Assist (HVA) Slipper Action Clutch, hydraulic clutch lever effort Wet, multi-plate, Hydraulic Vacuum Assist (HVA) Slipper Action Clutch, hydraulic clutch lever effort Transmission 6-speed, straight cut gears 6-speed, straight cut gears Overall Ratio: 1st 2.462 2.462 2nd 1.750 1.750 3rd 1.381 1.381 4th 1.174 1.174 5th 1.042 1.042 6th 1.000 1.000 Top of Page Chassis(6) U.S. Units Metric Units Frame Aluminum frame, fuel in frame Aluminum frame, fuel in frame Front Fork (6) 47 mm Showa® inverted forks with adjustable compression damping, rebound damping and spring preload 47 mm Showa® inverted forks with adjustable compression damping, rebound damping and spring preload Rear Shock (6) Showa® coil over monoshock with adjustable compression damping, rebound damping and spring preload Showa® coil over monoshock with adjustable compression damping, rebound damping and spring preload Wheels: Color Diamond Blue Diamond Blue Front 6-spoke, ZTL™ cast aluminum (type) 6-spoke, ZTL™ cast aluminum (type) 3.5 in. (diameter) 89 mm (diameter) 17 in. (width) 432 mm (width) Rear 6-spoke, cast aluminum (type) 6-spoke, cast aluminum (type) 5.5 in. (diameter) 140 mm (diameter) 17 in. (width) 432 mm (width) Brakes: Front ZTL™-type brake, 8-piston, fixed caliper, 375 mm single sided, inside out, stainless steel, floating rotor ZTL™-type brake, 8-piston, fixed caliper, 375 mm single sided, inside out, stainless steel, floating rotor Rear Two-piston, direct mount caliper, 240 mm stainless steel, fixed rotor Two-piston, direct mount caliper, 240 mm stainless steel, fixed rotor Suspension Travel: Front 4.72 in. 120 mm Rear 5.00 in. 127 mm Top of Page Electric U.S. Units Metric Units Battery Sealed lead acid, maintenance-free, 12V, 12 amp/hour, 200 cca (per Battery Council International Rating) Sealed lead acid, maintenance-free, 12V, 12 amp/hour, 200 cca (per Battery Council International Rating) Charging 32-amp, permanent magnet, three-phase, solid-state alternator with solid-state regulator (432W @ 7000 rpm, 432W peak) 32-amp, permanent magnet, three-phase, solid-state alternator with solid-state regulator (432W @ 7000 rpm, 432W peak) Starting 900W electric with one way clutch 900W electric with one way clutch Lights: (as per country regulation) Headlamps Type Six bulb headlamp system with daylight running mode, 35-watt [H8] Six bulb headlamp system with daylight running mode, 35-watt [H8] Headlamps Description 70-watt low beam (Two bulbs, each 35-watt), 140-watt high beam (70-watt low beam with additional two bulbs, each 35-watt) 70-watt low beam (Two bulbs, each 35-watt), 140-watt high beam (70-watt low beam with additional two bulbs, each 35-watt) Tail/Stop Lights 5W/21W 5W/21W Turn Signal Lights LED manual canceling LED manual canceling License Plate Light 5W 5W Top of Page Styling/Convenience U.S. Units Metric Units Instruments Instrument cluster with ODIS (Onboard Diagnostic Information System) featuring Analog tachometer with integrated shift light, digital speedometer on LED display, odometer, ODIS service code display, 4-digit security system with ignition immobolizer, lap timer (records up to 99 lap times) and splits, ambiant air temperature, coolant temperature, average and instanteous fuel consumption, miles to next service display, low fuel (plus miles traveled on reserve); high beam, neutral, turn signals; clock Instrument cluster with ODIS (Onboard Diagnostic Information System) featuring Analog tachometer with integrated shift light, digital speedometer on LED display, odometer, ODIS service code display, 4-digit security system with ignition immobolizer, lap timer (records up to 99 lap times) and splits, ambiant air temperature, coolant temperature, average and instanteous fuel consumption, miles to next service display, low fuel (plus miles traveled on reserve); high beam, neutral, turn signals; clock Top of Page Colors U.S. Units Metric Units Available Colors (9) Midnight Black; Diamond Blue Frame Midnight Black; Diamond Blue Frame Top of Page Warranty U.S. Units Metric Units Warranty 24 months (unlimited mileage) 24 months (unlimited mileage) Top of Page Footnotes Specifications for non-U.S. markets might differ. Buell reserves the right to discontinue models or change specifications at any time without incurring any obligations. Vehicle specifications may vary from country to country depending on local laws. Some models are not available in certain countries. 1 Prices may be subject to change without notice and rule as at the date of delivery. See your dealer for details. 2 Unladen, wet configuration (no rider, all fluids). 3 Without mirrors. 4 Laden, wet configuration (design rider, all fluids). 5 Bottomed-out configuration (100% suspension compression). 6 Kevlar®, Showa®, Dunlop® and Pirelli® are registered trademarks of their respective owners. 7 Based on tests conducted under lab conditions per U.S. E.P.A. test procedures. Mileage will vary depending on personal riding habits, weather conditions, trip length and vehicle condition. 8 Hibrex® and Flexten® are registered trademarks of the Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company. 9 Availability may vary from dealer to dealer, and is subject to change without notice. |
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