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Buellistic
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Carlost:

Pictures of my rear sprocket, SEE THUMPer FORUM, Got Thump?(display a pic of your thumper to see and everyone else's), Archive through November 15,2006, post
NOV 3,06 at 6:54PM ...

What do you think of sprocket set up ???

Notice HEX HEAD BOLTS and belt is more centered on sprocket ...

In BLASTing
LaFayette
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Carlost
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice...is it worth upgrading the drive belt while I'm down here? I hear that the new belt is somehow better...

So how does one know if the bearings need replacing?
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Swampy
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bearings, you can tell if they are bad, they catch, or grind or are loose. The bearing should not spin free if it is not mounted on an axle, there will be grease and seal drag. You can use the Harbor Freight Pilot Bearing tool, under $20, and use threaded rod and work up some washers, or find a bearing driver kit to use, don't pound on the bearing to get it in! I have done that before and according to the manual it is the wrong way to do it....

There is not an updated belt that I know of other than the 2000 smaller belt/rear pulley. So what ever comes in the box is whats new...LOL.

Replace the bolts and washers=cheap insurance.

If you put the pulley down there is plenty of room to change the tire on the brake side, that way you don't have to remove the pulley.
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Carlost
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks! Unfortunately we use a Coats 220 tire changer and there was no way to do this without removing the pulley on that machine. BTW the original pulley bolts were applied liberally with blue loctite even though the service manual makes no mention of using any on these bolts...hhhhmmm...your thoughts?

The bearings...well...they sorta "catch" as you sed but really otherwise move around OK. I just ordered the bearing tool so I may just try to exhibit a little patience here : D

The tire had also been Slimed...what a f_cking mess! That green stuff had corroded the inside of the rim and was still all liquidy gooey after God knows how many years of sloshing around in there...YUK!
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Swampy
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can easily change the tires by hand, including breaking the bead, your Coates, lucky as you are is kind of an overkill....LOL
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The service manual may not mention the blue Loctite as you're never supposed to reuse the bolts and new ones comes already coated (but I think the manual does mention the blue Loctite).

I've found that Blast wheels (bearings) after sitting around tend to 'seize up'and may not turn or 'catch' when spun. After installation and a few spins, they're fine! (and tested at over 100mph!) This is no guarantee that any seized bearings are fine, but its worth a closer look before replacing them.
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Carlost
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks...our local beemer club members chipped in money (as I did) a few years ago and bought to Coats 220 to be available for members. Now everyone just pays $3 for tire disposal and we have all of our tires dropshipped to the location of the tire changing room...nice setup. I sometimes contribute tools or supplies, too.
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Carlost
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah...these are sealed bearings so one can wonder...what makes them go bad?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Normal wear and the grease hardens or settles from sitting idle for long periods.
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Carlost
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bike sat in a damp storage trailer for like 4 years...
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats not so good...How does it look?
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Carlost
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK I guess...someone had obviously pulled this thing outta the trailer to do burnouts with it since the stock tire was absolutely shot. So far...I've replaced the tires, put on some Banke reasets, snatched a Low seat on Ebay, polished the plastic, put on a new battery, ordered a new speedo sensor, got some new "Traction" grips to put on...etc...list goes on : D
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Buellistic
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"i" gearse my SEALED BEARING and still have the original wheel bearings(2000 BLAST) ...

Could "i" be doing something wrong ???

In BLASTing
LaFayette
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Swampy
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

YES! Buellistic!

Your breaking the Bearing Rules!

Thank goodness it finally warmed up around the Giant Oak Tree.....

Persimmon tree my frozen butt!
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Joey
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My maple is 2 feet tall! It keeps growing! Time to do the dance. Is midnight OK? I'm thinking the neighbor kids might give my kids a hard time if I do it in the day time.

Project update! Prototype works! It's wide open, so I'm going to find some short standoffs so I can ride down the street without too much road stuff getting on the circuit board. Right now, it sticks out about an inch. No ride tests yet, just on the stand so far...
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Swampy
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great!

Fantastic!
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Rotzaruck
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Swampy
Don't get too far out on a limb about my persimmon tree
I've been thinking that Beck's persimmon dance might have been the only reason that train didn't get me
Besides, all my oaks are in the the woods part, I can't see her dance in there. And then there's all that poison ivy.
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Carlost
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WOW...I missed a seriously weird party but I did just trim my pine tree... : D
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Swampy
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wanted to share this with you guys:


hick


and another view:


hicky


As you can see the corner is Maple Rapids and Welling, just down the street. Giving directions tonight to the soon to be ex son-in-law, "Take it to the stop side and turn left at the engine block hanging from the post"
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Carlost
Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Boy...you guys are deep in the country... : D
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Carlost
Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What does the Homeowners Association have to say about this? : D
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is that for city pick up - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Drfeelgood
Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Haha I just remembered something whilst riding today, is it absolutly needed that I modify that rear shock mount since I have the meaty Avons? I noticed I had never actually done that.... I don't want to kill myself haha though my dad says it really shouldnt be a problem. Then again pop rides big twins and is a purist.
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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I didn't do the mod and after a highway trip I had a huge groove cut into my tire, giving it a life span of just over 3k miles! So........ do the mod.

Still, even with the mod, i'm getting rub marks! tire pressure is 30psi so help prevent further rubbing.......
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Mabueller
Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do the mod, IMO.
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Swampy
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spacecapsule1,
Check your rear wheel bearings, I had the same thing on the Big Kids Blast last big Avon I put on and it was the wheel bearing allowing the wheel to move into the swingarm.

Home owners association.....Ha, Ha, Ha! Whats that? There is an abandoned house between me and the engine block hanging from the post, so I guess that neighbor is out of the question.

I just got back from the Saginaw River/Bay, I was at a rehersal dinner on a river boat! Open bar....Mexican Koolaid, and Killians(for the red heads I love)
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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 07:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Swampy.

What exactly do I need to look for when I check them? Do I need to pull the wheel off, or can I just wiggle the wheel while its mounted to see if the bearings are bad?
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Xgecko
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if you can wiggle the rear wheel with it mounted in the swingarm then you bearings are indeed bad.
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Buellistic
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Xgecko:

Not quite so !!!

The outer race on the drive side of the rear wheel can and does get loose in the wheel ...

Now what is your answer to a "FIX" when that happens ...

In BLASTing
LaFayette
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Swampy
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes the bearing gets loose in the wheel hub! It is a common problem with some of the earlier rear wheels. If you can remove the bearing from the hub by hand, or if it just falls out, that is the problem. You would have noticed it when you had the wheel off when you changed your tire.

The cure?

why JB Weld of course!

Or buy a new wheel and send me the old one!
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