| Author | Message | ||
     Disturbed |
Just finished my 5K mile service, which includes changing the primary fluid. Pretty straight forward. Put new Sny3 in. I used to be able to snick through the gears (clutchless) very smoothly and accurately. Unfortunately I drained the fluid before looking to see the old level. The tech manual is very black and white as to where the level belongs. I think I may have it a bit too full. Now when I try clutchless upshifts, it seems to slip, rev freely, then bang into gear. Thoughts? Cord | ||
| Midknyte |
With the inspection cover off, and the bike straight upright (not on the stand), the fluid level should be just at / touching the bottom of the teeth of the large gear in there. Might need a flashlight to see it well. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Too much fluid will make for rough shifts. I'll bet that's your problem. | ||
| Kdan |
It needs a quart. No more, no less. | ||
| Disturbed |
Midnyte and others, I need to drain some off. I went a bit over those "teeth". I errored on the side over overfull. I figured this was my issue, just wanted to check my sanity. Thanks guys! Cord | ||
| Ironhead1977 |
For what it's worth, the bike came from the factory with formula + in the primary not syn 3. | ||
| Disturbed |
For what it's worth, the bike came from the factory with formula + in the primary not syn 3. True but, the last time it was changed it got SNY3. | ||
| Altima02 |
Just buy 1 quart. As long as you drain it all, you can't mess up! I appreciate the ease. | ||
| Dapope |
I think one full quart is a touch too much. I always use a bit less. | ||
| Dentguy |
I hope it is your fluid level not your trans. Usually a rev freely then bang into gear situation is due to a worn shift drum, worn shift fork and rounded of edges on the dog rings. Probably caused from excess pressure due to shifting without a clutch. I have seen this before. Maybe just a coincidence that it started when you changed the fluid. Just trying to help. Hope everything is ok. | ||
| Xb9 |
28 oz. | ||
| Mesafirebolt |
I agree with Dapope, just under 1 qt, at least on my 05 12R. | ||
| Midknyte |
9/10th's of a quart by the book, if I recall correctly | ||
| Fullpower |
XB9 sez his uses 28 ounces. Mine likes about that much also. I just use the same stuff I am putting in the swingarm. usually 15W-50 synthetic, whatever brand is on sale. I currently have a few dozen quarts of NAPA brand synthetic to work through, have in past used mobil-1, also worked well. | ||
| Djkaplan |
When you drain the primary/trans, a measureable amount of oil stays trapped in the cases. Anyone that's ever taken a primary cover off can attest to this. If you put 32oz's in, you will overfill the transmission. | ||
| Tcskeptic |
I think I remember seeing a graphic here that recommended filling the primary to a lower level than the book indicates. If I recall correctly the suggestion was to fill to 1/32nd over the bottom of the teeth rather than as far up as the book shows. What would the effect of this be? | ||
| New12r |
Use the Formula + It was DESIGNED for your primary. The Syn 3 will work but the + is lightyears better! Oh, about 28oz is what mine will take. 04 12R | ||
| 147db |
Here's another vote for the Formula+!  | ||
| Xb9 |
Formula +  | ||
| Disturbed |
So as i thought, I drained off a bit and we are back in action snicking flawlessly. Thanks guys! Cord |
