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Roadrailer
| | Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 12:43 am: | 
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M1,
Comical, and sad. I'm glad to know I have a choice not to be disturbed by my neighbor's pipes that rattle my windows as he goes by, waking my entire family. Thanks for enlightening me. 
I'm glad your neighbors don't mind your exhaust. But I've lost count of the number of times I've been in public and overheard someone making a negative comment about a motorcyclist on a loud bike as he passes by. There's no superiority complex in this, just a reaction to a public disturbance by a minority of inconsiderate individuals.
The real issue in this country, IMO, is that some people have decided that they have a right to create a disturbance and generally be jackasses, instead of considering how their actions affect others around them, and how those people will react to other motorcyclists.
BTW, there are FEDERAL laws (EPA) that dictate how loud your bike should be. The fact that your local police department choose not to enforce those laws is the issue. Maybe they're choosing not to be annoyed by it. 
If you would pull your head out of the sand you would realize the general public is getting tired of the disturbance created by motorcyclists with loud pipes. WE'RE in the minority, not the other way around, and when enough people complain governments WILL start cracking down on the knuckledraggers exercising their "freedoms." It's already happening.
Ever wonder why you can't get a "race" exhaust from Buell or HD anymore? Maybe they see what's ahead.
Thanks for the laugh though...
(Message edited by roadrailer on March 17, 2007) |
Vegasbueller
| | Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 01:27 am: |
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Thanks Mike. I like it!
Don, so far so good! I have had one problem with the front mount loosening up but that was an easy fix. Thanks for reiterating my thoughts about responsible riding.
And for Oldman and roadrailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNzZzsvOClc |
Metalstorm
| | Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 01:48 am: |
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I'll take a really good sounding pipe over a really loud pipe any day. I really don't believe the two have to go hand in hand.
I really think I need to use the word "really" at least two more times before I end this. 
Sometimes really loud pipes endanger lives.
I'll admit that in slow commute traffic they're nice. People hear you before they see you. It can be very handy to be a bit on the loud side in these slow traffic situations.
On the other hand..
I've noticed that on freeways & highways, anywhere where the speeds are 55+ mph that cages really don't hear even really loud bikes until they're right beside them.
I witnessed this quite a few times. There will be a car plugging along at about 70mph then suddenly a bike passes besides them.
The cager is completely unaware until the bike is right beside them then there's that sudden noise and the driver is abruptly shocked & startled.
Most times it's no big deal but once I've seen a driver so startled that he/she jumped & jerked the wheel causing the car to swerve into the next lane.
I was a good 5-6 car lengths behind & got a good view. I'm glad there was no one on the other side of that car.
On edit: when I talk about really loud, I'm talking about open header loud. It really (that's two more "really"s yay!) does scare the bejeezes out of some people.
(Message edited by metalstorm on March 17, 2007) |
M1combat
| | Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 12:13 am: |
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"The cager is completely unaware until the bike is right beside them then there's that sudden noise and the driver is abruptly shocked & startled.
Most times it's no big deal but once I've seen a driver so startled that he/she jumped & jerked the wheel causing the car to swerve into the next lane. "
And I suppose that driver, driving along ASLEEP, was much safer than being WOKE UP.
wow...
"The real issue in this country, IMO, is that some people have decided that they have a right to create a disturbance and generally be jackasses,"
You're missing my point road railer...
I completely understand that some people with loud pipes are jack asses. People should be responsible. I'm all for selectively enforced laws pertaining to loud pipes. Lots of people aren't responsible with them. THOSE people should suffer. Not all of us that have loud pipes and ARE responsible with them.
I see your point, you're blind to mine. |
Cycleaddict
| | Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 12:34 am: |
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if you have a loud exhaust when/ where can you use it "responsibly" ? (i've got this great m/c but i cain't use it the way i'd like to because it's too loud) definate advantage to riding a "whisper jet" (stock exhaust) you can haul-ass almost anywhere & nobody knows you are-- unless they actually "see" you !(cool) but i've noticed when riding my drummer equipped buell that people(police, kids,concerned citizens etc.) tend to notice when i'm on the gas, so the loud exhaust thing tends to give the "illusion" of speed/recklessness . |
Metalstorm
| | Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 02:59 am: |
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And I suppose that driver, driving along ASLEEP, was much safer than being WOKE UP.
Actually the car was doing very well up until the point that it got passed.
Even I've been startled once or twice by sudden loudness passing by me when driving my truck on the freeway and I am a very alert driver.
I'll see them behind me a ways when I scan my rearview. I take in how fast they appear to be going and how long it will take them to reach me. Sometimes they gas it and end up reaching me a lot sooner than I anticipate and then I get that sudden boom.
It's pretty arrogant & ignorant to assume that it was the cager's fault. No one was at fault really. The driver reacted badly but he/she wouldn't have if he/she didn't get such a thunderous unexpected boom. I know he/she did not/could not hear the bike until it was right there. At 70 plus mph you simply can not hear anything coming up on you. Use of mirrors help but it's better to keep the eyes up front & scanning ahead.
Action got a reaction if you know what I mean. |
Lost_in_ohio
| | Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 08:05 am: |
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The sport bikers with loud exhausts, at least in my neck of the woods, are a minority. It is the middle age guy on the factory built custom that are a bigger problem. On weekend nights we cannot sleep with the windows open. Round midnight when they start leaving the bars it sounds like the start of a race.
Loud pipes save lives.....Yeah only if I have sleep apnea. |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 09:50 am: |
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Ok, I just gotta say I took the muffler off my bike last night to send it out to Odie, and I coudln't resist starting her up for a second and seeing how she sounded.
No doubt, the sounds pure badass. But still WAY too loud to tolerate for more than a minute. |
Djkaplan
| | Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 01:33 pm: |
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"They think they are the coolest but everyone else on the street knows they are a--holes."
Oh, you gotta hear this one. I was in Helen, Georgia, a touristy Alpine styled village that has an Octoberfest celebration every year. I drove there with my girlfriend and wasn't on the bike. There are always thousands of pedestrians walking around this time of year and there is a major crosswalk in the middle of town. Some anus-hole in new black leathers and boots on some kind of custom was waiting in traffic and blipping the bejeesus out of his RevTec or whatever it was. The reaction was instaneous - everyone hated the loud, obnoxious jerk MOTORCYCLIST... even me.
"Ok, I just gotta say I took the muffler off my bike last night to send it out to Odie, and I coudln't resist starting her up for a second and seeing how she sounded."
And here, my conundrum; as much as I hate open pipes, I had to do this too (it was truly a glorious sound). I had to take a little ride around the block... didn't sound so bad to me, but my neighbors probably didn't think so. It sounded like a cross between a Top Fuel dragster and radial airplane engine. |
Spatten1
| | Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 01:41 pm: |
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everyone hated the loud, obnoxious jerk MOTORCYCLIST... even me.
I lived in Daytona and my bedroom window faced a major street. There was about a month that I was up all night due to the windows and walls shaking from straight pipe HDs.
It's all about "look at me, look how cool and rebellious I am."
Just plain inconsiderate and immature, and doesn't get you any power on a low RPM bike.
What I can't friggin belive is that someone would put on straight pipes then wear ear plugs! Screw the rest of the world that has to listen to it, I'm preserving my hearing. |
Xbeau12s
| | Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 02:13 pm: |
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There is always gonna be someone who is gonna dislike what someone else is doing regardless if the bike is loud or not. Nature of people. Good thing I was born around loud bikes and biker parties. I can sleep right next to a rumbling V-Twin. I say get some ear plugs and quit your bitchin but that's just me. I won't rev my engine in a quiet neighborhood and if I can avoid it then I will but I won't get a quiet exhaust cause my pro race pipe has saved me from being literally ran over by elderly who don't turn to look when they switch lanes (loud pipe works great then!) and I live in a gambling town so that's why I'm almost ran over at least once every time I ride because some elderly person doesn't see me. Guess I'm just a young punk and one day I'll be the blind geezer hopped up on pharmies. |
Old_man
| | Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 04:11 pm: |
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I say get some ear plugs and quit your bitchin
Everyone should wear ear plugs everyday to protect their hearing from inconsiderate a--holes???
What world are you from? |
Xbeau12s
| | Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 05:39 pm: |
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Didn't say everyone. some people like the noise. Count me in
I'm not one of the inconsiderate a-holes. I rev it where it's appropriate (read my above post through you can see where I stated this)
(Message edited by xbeau12s on March 19, 2007) |
Bads1
| | Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 05:52 pm: |
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I like the bike I have now with the Drummer on it. I used to have the D&D and I just simply got sick of the noise. Funny as I get older some of the things I just plainly can live without. The obnoxious mufflers are one of them. I'll be buying another Sportbike next year and I have to say its gonna be left alone and just enjoyed for what it is. The Buell I'll keep and fart around with like I have. |
Old_man
| | Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 05:53 pm: |
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It doesn't take much to permanently damage your hearing.
I made it to the age of 62years with good hearing. I cherish my hearing.
38 years as a police officer - firearms qualification at least twice a year, including; sidearms, 12 gauge shotguns, rifles, and sub-machine guns.
I have ridden motorcycles for 46 years, including dirt bikes.
I always used hearing protection on the range.
On my CZ 250, I took the muffler apart and filled in any unnecessary gaps to quiet it.
My Buell came off the showroom floor with a Latus muffler already installed by the dealer before I bought it. On the way home I set off car alarms and hurt my ears.
I immediately fabricated baffles. Now it is still louder than stock but causes no discomfort.
After you damage your hearing it never comes back.
Many of the men I worked with now have to use hearing aids in both ears.
PROTECT YOUR HEARING! |
Xbeau12s
| | Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 06:10 pm: |
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I agree with protecting your hearing. I have the Buell Race kit so the muffler came on the bike. I think it's actually mild compared to some I guess. I also always, ALWAYS wear my full face helmet and it helps a lot with the noise and actually sounds really mellow in the helmet.
Although working at a health care facility a lot of older men say they wish their hearing was gone so they can't hear the wife bitchin at em! haha thought I would share that funny thought |
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