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Justin16
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i just bought a 2006 xb12r firebolt and i am going to put on the race ecm, race filter and plugs, and the drummer ss what kind of power gains can i expect is that the best can to get, also is the carbon fiber from american sportbike better than the buell carbon fiber
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Olinxb12r
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you want to know the power numbers for every combination download the shootout results on the American Sport Bike website. Just about every pipe and combination is listed in there. I believe the SS was one of the top two performers with the Micron.

As for the carbon, I don't know about the stuff on the Buell site, but I do know the stuff from American Sport Bike is top rate. I would assume that the stuff on the Buell site is too.
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Justin16
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what other performance upgrades would you suggest
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Many board members feel that for track days and aggressive riding in the twisties, that suspension tuning and tire and suspension upgrades are more important than increasing horsepower.

Tires like the Pirelli Diablo Corsa lll and Dunlop Qualifiers are highly regarded.

The Buell competition springs, and modified shock and forks are also important, especially for the heavier rider.

I prefer a steering damper, others don't.

Congratulations on your new bike.
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Justin16
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

how is it on long rides
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M1combat
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can do 6-8 hours or so. I think that the Firebolt doesn't need a damper, but the Lightning does.
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New12r
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOVE MY BOLT. I am getting ready to rebuild it a second time.

I ride the daylights out of it and she keeps giving more. Have done more than 350 miles of mountian and highway in one day.

If I had a damper on the bike I would not be rebuilding it this time, but that is not the bikes fault(loose nut controlling the bike).
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Justin16
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so having the damper is a must my tlr1000 had a damper
stock on it
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Olinxb12r
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, but the TLR had a damper on it only after the first models had problems with chatter on braking.

I would say the damper is not really necessary. I've put 14,000 miles on my bolt without one.

I would however say that the first thing you should do is get those crappy stock dunlops off the bike. It is probably the best thing I ever did to my bike.

Other than that get your suspension dialed in, and pick up the stuff you were talking about in your first post.
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Tdiddy
Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Justin, Sense you just bought the bike I suggest riding it for a while before making a lot of changes. Dial in your suspension and really get to know how the bike performs. You might find the power is where you need it to be and have all that money for the important stuff. (carbon fiber)
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Aldaytona
Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Biggest performance upgrades.







MSF then California Superbike School, Spencer, ect.
More performance than you'll ever get from a muffler and ECM, and an air filter.
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New12r
Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I say I needed a damper cus I made a huge mistake when coming down from a wheelie, kept the bars crooked(i was leaning through a turn) when I touched down.

The only other time I would have liked one was at Barber, about 100mph coming up a hill into a right hander you would get some front end wobble. For street riding I never felt I needed one. Or more power for that matter, but I ride the mountains and keep off the freeway.
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Justin16
Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

are there any differences between the 06 and the 07 they told me there was really no diff
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Samiam
Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 03:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Justin,
The inner airbox cover is updated with more holes/better airflow. Other than that, just color choice and tires being switched to Pirelli.

Sam
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Justin16
Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

is the drummer ss worth the extra money compared to a jardine titanium
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Samiam
Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

IMO the Micron is worth the extra $$ over the SS but yeah I'd definitely go for the SS over the Jardine.

Sam
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Justin16
Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i dont like the way the micron looks compard to the drummer ss and you cant put the right side scoop on with the serpent system does the micron look better in person
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Elff
Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Justin
I managed to snag a full race kit.
In looking at the comparisons I just couldnt justify spending the extra money for a different muffler as I am not competing.
I like the fact that the Race muffler and Race ECM are already tuned together so it's a simple bolt on and TPS reset.
it sounds great and the seat of the pants gain in power was impressive.

Like someone else said, dump the Dunlops.
I just got my Pirelli's installed and it is a new bike. I have complete confidence in these tires whereas I had no confidence with the dunlops.

The helibar top triple clamp puts the clips on more on top of the fork tubes which translates into more direct steering input. They also raise the bars up 1" and back 1.5".

The differences between an 06 and 07 are the airbox and some internal differences.
The 07s circulate the oil more efficiently.
From what I have read, every 07 upgrade should be retro-fittable on the 06.

Congrats on your new purchase.
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Samiam
Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well I think the last part of your last statement was a question, couldn't tell since there's not a bit of punctuation, but here goes:

I wouldn't know if the micron looks better in person, the only Buell exhausts I've seen in person are mine (stock then micron), a friend's (stock then Jardine), and a coworker (race). Believe it or not, I think the Micron was easier to install than the Jardine, and the sound is no comparison. Click here to hear the difference. The Jardine I installed on my friend's bike was not the Titanium one but there shouldn't be a difference in sound between the models.

Sam
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Justin16
Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

sorry about the puctuation. there just arent any good pics really of the micron system and pics just dont do justice. also they say with the micron header you cant put the right side scoop on which makes the rear cylinder run alot cooler
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Tx05xb12s
Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's true for me too Sam. Except for at dealerships, I've never seen another XB in person other than my own. See a few Blasts around every once in a while, but that's it. Sure do enjoy everyone's pictures.
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Samiam
Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 01:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You know what though? I wouldn't have it any other way. I like having a rare motorcycle. Granted I'd love to see Buell become a bigger brand but I love being unique. It's one of the joys of owning a Buell. I would like to find more in my area though, and parade around town in our "hooligan" bikes.









And then find some twisties.
Sam
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Justin16
Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thats why its nice to see good pics. you dont want to spend $1000 and not like how something sounds or looks,
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