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Rum_runner
| Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 02:20 am: |
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i have a supertrap that came on the bike but it just does't do it for me. i'd like something more deep you know something to set off car alarms but no so loud it cracks windows. oh ya i have a 97' S1 |
Hodakaguy
| Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 06:15 am: |
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Buell Pro Race - Great Exhaust. Hodakaguy |
Sleez
| Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 10:34 am: |
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V&H always sounds good, nice and throaty, just keep em packed well. the supertrapp IDS sounds pretty damn good as well. |
Wrong36
| Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 10:38 am: |
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i have a 01-X1 with a D&D slip-on... that sets off alarms no problem. it rocks ! |
Cereal
| Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 02:53 pm: |
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What condition is your trapp in? Mine is coming apart and I am looking for another )if I can't get it welded). |
Wolf102
| Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 03:03 pm: |
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if you want to set off car alarms force exhaust systems are the way to go |
Rum_runner
| Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 06:33 pm: |
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my pipes is in fairly good condition. |
Rum_runner
| Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 06:36 pm: |
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ok guys now can you tell me the price of these pipes |
Sleez
| Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 06:39 pm: |
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once i went to the IDS Trapp, and added some rubber vibration mounts at the point blow the engine it has held up great, broke two ext disc mufflers! |
Chasespeed
| Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 10:24 pm: |
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Force will run between 700-800 D&D Slip on, 325 I had a D&D slip on, then went to the full system. The D&D will set off car alarms at idle..sounds mean while cruising.. and down right angry under full throttle acceleration... Chase |
Tripp
| Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 11:03 pm: |
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chase ain't kidding, i have a force which is very loud but, that d&d on chase's bike was scary loud, it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up! almost had a hell hound bark to it! hey, speaking of.. how's it going down south? hope everything is positive brother!BTW i don't think the nebo brag pic ever made it to print and now brag is over... |
Chasespeed
| Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 11:13 pm: |
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Tripp...well, other than tha bike being down, the divorce is almost complete, and, the having difference of opinion on how to run the shop..so, I am seperating the shop, and moving to a bigger building... But, I am looking to head up home, HOPEFULLY, in Januaury... Pretty soon, there will be some new pics of the bike..looks nothign like the last time you seen it.. Anyway, I still got your number, was gonna buzz a few of ya this weekend anyway, Craig, you..etc... Chase |
Bad_karma
| Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 11:17 pm: |
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Rum_runner If you go with the vance & Hines SS2R it will not be loud like you want but it has a nice sound. You will want to up grade to the S1W header with the 2.5" collector. If you can pick up a used Two Brothers setup has the db and tone. Joe |
Nevrenuf
| Posted on Friday, December 01, 2006 - 06:31 am: |
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the bub pipes that i had on the other m2 made a great growling sound but you lose hp. the force that came on this m2 was so loud it didn't even make any difference with ear plugs in. probably because it comes out directly beneath you. if the d&d is a little longer, that might be better to have unless you can deal with the noise. right now i have the super trapp. hardly any noise. |
Sleez
| Posted on Friday, December 01, 2006 - 10:57 am: |
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the Trapp can be tuned to be almost as noisy as the force! i tested each with a SLP meter and was only 1 db different. i ran my Trapp with 21 discs and an open end cap with the opening opened up larger, freakin' loud! if i remember right the force was 120 db and the trapp was 119 db at the test location and distance. a trapp with less discs and a closed end cap is not nearly as loud. |
Nevrenuf
| Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 07:27 am: |
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so i was doing the complete opposite of what i should have been doing to get a little more noise out of it. i was taking the discs out thinking it would open it up, leaving the end cap in. |
Phat_j
| Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 12:21 pm: |
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use the "force" luke |
Easy_rider
| Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 10:35 pm: |
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I started with about 24 discs in my Buell version of the Supertrapp. It set off car alarms just fine. I've been trying to quiet it down by removing some discs but the tone isn't as nice. |
Sleez
| Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 10:33 am: |
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hey neil, if you can find a "racing only" open end cap, it will make quite a difference! |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 11:40 am: |
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What do the discs do when you have an open endcap? Does adding or removing discs change anything with an open endcap? |
Sleez
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 12:13 pm: |
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some, because the endcap is only partially open, it has a hole cut into it, maybe 1.5 or 2", i put mine on a lathe and opened it up further even! so adding discs still has some effect, but it takes a bigger change to notice. |
Sleez
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 12:17 pm: |
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here is a pic;
this one is stock, i opened up the hole on mine to approx. within about 1/4" of the letters stamped into it (Message edited by sleez on December 05, 2006) |
Sleez
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 12:28 pm: |
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trapp info; http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/pdfs/suprtrapin fo.pdf quoted from Nightrider.com; The un-baffled SuperTrapp test was conducted because past tuning efforts have resulted in the highest horsepower and torque figures from this configuration. When the pipe is run without the baffles, the power band is quite narrow and peaky. This is a good combination for drag racing, but it is deemed unsuitable for street performance. This pipe setup is also very loud, sounding more like a race bike than a street machine. The normal street configuration of the SuperTrapp on this engine is 21 disks and an open end cap. This configuration is also similar to those in other tests published by several v-twin specialty magazines. The power band for this setup is known to be very wide and flat, something that is very desirable for good street performance. The normal SuperTrapp setup has always had very reasonable noise levels to it, and the typical smooth sound of unequal length 2-1 pipes. True performance enthusiast seem to like the sound while unknowing v-twin purist is more worried about the pipe not looking like they expect a Harley to look like. (Message edited by sleez on December 05, 2006) |
Nevrenuf
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 05:12 pm: |
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is it easy to find the open end caps sleez, cause they quit making the muffler for the buells, at least the tube frames. the one i got was off of ebay which i wasn't sure what i was getting but come to find out it was an order slip on that didn't have the reinforcement or the proper support bracket for the front. any ideas for the bracket. (price i payed to save half the price on a new one i guess) i'll never buy anything off of ebay again for the bike. and phat_j, if you want to buy the force off of me let me know and make me an offer, i'd be glad to sale it to you. that thing screwed with my head just like being on a wicked roller coaster. screwed up my equilibrium. |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 05:17 pm: |
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Does a SuperTrapp style muffler blow exhaust straight on the rear tire? |
Jc000
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 05:24 pm: |
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Any of you guys used a drummer on a tuber? I'm thinking of running that with the Nallins hurricaneflow air cleaner on my cyclone once I'm up for the additional hp... Any of you guys have experience with setup? |
Sleez
| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 05:28 pm: |
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neil, i think this is the right one; http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part= sup-405-3046 i am not sure on the front mount, all my megaphone type Trapps had the front bracket welded on i believe and i broke two, Trapp always replaced them and eventually replaced it with the IDS set up. Dj, on the tubers it is a bit off to the side and with the 120 deg shield, works pretty good, the newer IDS muffler has a conventional looking outlet tip angled off to the side. |
Nevrenuf
| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 06:23 am: |
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for right now i'm gonna get the elbow welded to the muffler and i have a homemade clamp that buellistic help me set up. i guess if i can't find a bracket that would work with the y hanger then i can get one made. i appreciate the help sleez. |
Silenc3r
| Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 06:51 pm: |
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I have a Force Street Fighter exhaust... and I set off alarms just about everywhere... and it makes children cry You want loud? get one of these WITHOUT the optional 'street legallizing' baffle, and prepare to piss off the neighbors |
Nevrenuf
| Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 07:45 pm: |
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read my earlier post up above silec3r. |