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Rogue_biker
| Posted on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 07:37 pm: |
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I now have 4k miles on my '06 Firebolt and really, really like the bike. I did notice a bit more buffeting around my head at speeds above 85--especially when riding into a headwind. I'm considering replacing the factory yellow screen with the ZG ST screen. http://www.zerogravity-racing.com/sportbikes/photo gallery%20v2/Buell%202/855%20firebolt/855%20COMP1. jpg Has anyone tried this screen? Does it create noise? Does it really work? Is the Double Bubble a better choice for general riding? I'm not looking to tour the country with my Firebolt. Just looking for a slightly better wind protection but I'm not willing to trade noise for it. Thanks in advance for your responses. PS: I have tried ZG products before on my old Bandit 1200S and their ST screen was REAL high and created so much noise it gave me a headache after 20 min of riding. I promptly removed it. |
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Buelltroll
| Posted on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 07:50 pm: |
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I don't know about the ST and the buffeting,but the double bubble WILL melt your gauges and zero gravity will tell you too bad about that. |
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Jon_s
| Posted on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 08:01 pm: |
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I have one fitted to my Firebolt. Works fine; far less buffeting than the stock screen. Depends on your height. I'm only 5' 9". |
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Schmitty
| Posted on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 08:37 pm: |
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I'm 6'1", 215lbs. I decided on the ST screen over the double bubble and couldn't be happier. The DB looks better, but I wasn't willing to sacrifice looks for a melted gauge pod. It's just one more thing that you have to remember when parking the bike. Besides, the ST screen provides a bigger guy like me with a larger bubble to tuck under on the track. And for real world riding it provides a lot more wind protection than stock. |
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Aeroe
| Posted on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 08:57 pm: |
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but the double bubble WILL melt your gauges and zero gravity will tell you too bad about that. I wondered where that bubble came from!
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Diablobrian
| Posted on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 09:06 pm: |
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An awful lot of racers use the ST screen to give them a larger bubble to tuck into. It is a good thing. When my double bubble needs replacing I'll be getting the ST in light smoke. If it works only as well as the DB screen I'll be thrilled, but it should work even better I parked my bike outside uncovered for more than a few minutes only once in the past year. On that occasion (homecoming) my gages were melted. I was not happy. |
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Nutsnbolt
| Posted on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 09:14 pm: |
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Put a strip on Duct Tape over where the reflection might melt your gauges.(joke, kind of) If that doesn't work.... Paint the whole screen whichever color you like. How many of us ACTUALLY LOOK THROUGH THE SCREEN??? If that doesn't work... I have actually heard of people (my neighbor) attaching that film ( static film, smoke colored) to the inside of the screen and that way you can take it on or off at your leisure. He swears by it... No melted gauges. Just my opinion, but I could be wrong. Mark |
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Rogue_biker
| Posted on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 11:52 pm: |
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So the double-bubble melts the gauges but the ST screen does NOT? Can someone please clarify this? I don't want melted gauges! |
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Stangallmotor
| Posted on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 12:12 am: |
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I have the double bubble on my bike, no melted gauges yet. Double bubble looks ten times better, get it. |
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Bake
| Posted on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 12:14 am: |
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I have the touring windshield, which I think is what you are calling the ST and no melted parts, just the double bubble apparently. I'd still like something higher for touring days. (Message edited by bake on November 27, 2006) |
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Diablobrian
| Posted on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 12:22 am: |
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The second curve of the double bubble acts as a parabolic mirror. It happens to have a focal length that is right where your gages sit. The ST screen does not have the double bubble style profile so it does not cause the melting of the gages. The double bubble gage melting is a well documented problem. It is not a rare occurrance. I was wondering if the memphis shades cockpit screen is just a copy of the double bubble profile or if it is a new design that will not cause the melting. It is a possibility for those that want that profile of wind screen. |
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Buelltroll
| Posted on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 12:35 am: |
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Looks like an exact copy. And they are hard to come by. Memphis shades no longer make them so its whatever is left on the shelves. |
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Trojan
| Posted on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 04:31 am: |
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We have used the Zero Gravity ST screen on our race bike all year. It is much better than the db or the stock screen if you are over 6 foot, and will allow you to get down behind the screen a lot easier.
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Spike
| Posted on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 01:03 pm: |
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On the subject of gauge melting- I ran a dark double-bubble on my 12R for over 3 years. For two of those years I parked the bike outside (no garage). I never paid attention to where I parked in relation to the sun and I never bothered to cover my gauges. I never had a single problem with the gauges melting. I was really beginning to think the DB melting was mostly myth. However, about a month ago I left my bike facing away from the sun late in the afternoon and came back to find a melted spot on the top of my gauges. I was surprised to say the least. Apparently the melting is caused not by the light passing through the shield, but reflecting off the underside of the shield at a low angle. Since most of us never look through the shield anyway, it seems like the easy fix would be to have a shield with a rough finish on the underside that didn't reflect as much as the glossy finish. |
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Slaughter
| Posted on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 03:41 pm: |
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I use the ST on my racebike as well (see profile. Matt's pic above gives you a really good look at it on the Trojan machine. I'm not a good one to comment on the gage melting since we're almost always parked in the shade - but I'd also heard that the DB was the one guilty of the gage melting, but that might just be becuause the DB is a more popular "look" than the ST as so it seems to sell more. I tend to think like Brian above - that the focal length of the ST is toally different and likely to NOT be a problem. |
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Slaughter
| Posted on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 03:48 pm: |
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Couple more pics: Henry Sunny Me In the Pits (Message edited by slaughter on November 27, 2006) |
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Lord_deathscyte
| Posted on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 10:36 pm: |
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I am running the ST screen. I love the way it directs most of the wind over me. |
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Daves
| Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 02:38 pm: |
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I have sold tons of both the Double Bubble and ST screens. The DB, you do need to put your gloves or something under the windshield,above the gauges to keep them from melting. The ST you do not. I prefer the look of the DB but the ST is probably the better choice? 76.45 thru me. |
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Slaughter
| Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 03:59 pm: |
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What Daves Said makes sense. Most folks buy the DB for style, the ST for performance. I was sold when I saw that Hals was running the ST on all their racebikes. I can definitely tell the difference in fighting the wind with my upper body. You can't tell me that breaking the wind with head, shoulders and arms is better than breaking the wind with the fairing. OF course there's "breaking the wind" and then there's "breaking wind" - a different measure of performance. ![: D](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/biggrin2.gif) |
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Diablobrian
| Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 04:59 pm: |
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Yes, one involved bean burritos... |
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Isham
| Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 07:08 pm: |
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Since we are talking about DB and ST screens. I've posted this before in the classifieds but got nothing. I want to trade an amber DB for my Smoked DB. Must be a DB and wont settle for stock. Seems like no one has an amber DB so after this post ill quit about trading it. Sorry for the shameless ad. |
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Diablobrian
| Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 08:49 pm: |
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For that matter if someone has an ST in clear, smoke, or dark smoke that is interested in a trade for a clear DB PM me. (another shameless petition for a swap) |
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Kevinfromwebb
| Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 10:27 pm: |
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I've got the ST on my 12R and really like it. I'm 5'7" and usually don't tuck in much and it works great, and plenty of room to tuck into when I do. And the amber color is a good match to the stock color... Kevin |
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Rogue_biker
| Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 11:19 pm: |
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Thank you for the info guys. I will get the ST screen. I prefer the look of it over the double bubble. And yes. I'm after performance although I do like style as well. I personally think the amber stock screen that matches the wheels is a bit too bling for this old guy. ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/biggriney.gif) |