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Gamdh
| Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 01:41 pm: |
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Well, I dropped off my bike with Charly last week. Picked it up Thursday night with the first windshield for the Uly. This is the version he used to create his tray's, tooling etc.. it is the smallest one. I should be stopping by his shop Sunday to get the 'tall' version. Here's a preview pic... keep in mind this is the pre-production shorter version. You can find a few more pics here: http://gamdh.smugmug.com/gallery/2144819/1/1111472 66 |
Roc
| Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 02:01 pm: |
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Are they held in with screws or the stock Buell type push in fasteners? With the push in fasteners I would worry about it comming off at speed, like the Uly tall windshield recall. |
Gamdh
| Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 02:07 pm: |
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screws..on all four mouting points. I have not seen the Buell screw for their tall windshield but I'm sure it's pretty similiar.. only with 4 instead of 2. (Message edited by gamdh on November 18, 2006) |
Nutsosane
| Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 04:56 pm: |
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That's the short one!!? Sheesh, I have a tendency to find roads that don't demand wind protection. The 10 miles I spent on the freeway today reassured me of that. I really wish Buell would build you guys the sport tourer you're trying to make out of the Uly. I am of the opinion if you're bothered by wind noise you're on the wrong bike. The essence of XB Buelling is being sat over the front wheel with an unobstructed view of the curves ahead. NUTS |
Too_tall_todd
| Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 05:26 pm: |
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I can still see over the windscreen and see the road ahead. and I want a taller screen. gamdh, how is the buffiting, I bought the 14" cee baily and the buffiting was so bad that I had to chose between going deaf or plugs. I chose the stock screen but, i'm still looking. |
Old_mil
| Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 07:06 pm: |
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Can you attach one of these to an XB S? |
Keyser_soze
| Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 07:47 pm: |
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That may be a great shield but as far as looks go... . And that goes for all the large barn door type fairings that I have seen bolted to a Uly. |
Gamdh
| Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 08:03 pm: |
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I had the cee baily 16".. the buffeting was killing me. This is much better.. the air was hitting me about the bottom of my face shield.. but is did not buffet my head. If you see this one compared to the cee baily there is a big difference in the angle.. seems to matter. As for the 'barn door'.. I commute to work and need a big screen for the winter.. during warm weather I use the cee baily +2.5 all the time. I generally want the wind on me.. just not during the cold weather. As for looks.. it actually looks better in person... and besides in this case I'm want function first. There were also a lot of request to Parabellum for something that would block the wind. |
Gamdh
| Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 08:05 pm: |
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Old_mil .. not sure. If the XB S has the same stock mounting points for the wind shield.. I would think so??? |
Milo_h
| Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 08:06 pm: |
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Thanks for the post Gamdh. I've been waiting for the "right windshield". Been running the factory tall. The air is still all wrong around my shoulders and head. Looking forward to your ride report. Peace Milo |
Gamdh
| Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 08:14 pm: |
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No problem... as for this shield. Very little buffeting, some wind noise, but not bad, I liked it and as stated it looks better in person (it is pre-production). (for the record I'm 6'2"). As mentioned the wind was more or less at the bottom of my face shield and a small amount on the tops of my shoulders. This was really the test wind shield for him to create his tooling etc, he was not originally going to let me use this one.. but we figured it couldn't hurt. Sunday he will fit the taller one and we will see how it works...he had a few concerns, but had some ideas to address them. |
Roadrailer
| Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 09:02 pm: |
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That's the short?? Any plans on offering a super-short version? I really wish Buell would build you guys the sport tourer you're trying to make out of the Uly. Speaking as someone who actually sport tours on a Uly (and doesn't understand how the Uly doesn't qualify as a sport-touring bike), I don't want or need a barn door to be comfortable. The CB +2.5 offers more than enough protection, without looking like the windshield off a Honda Civic. As for this thing, well??? If it floats your boat go for it. I'm a function over form kinda guy, but this pushes the limits. I'll keep my fingers crossed for a shorter version. |
Lowflyer
| Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 09:06 pm: |
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I'd buy one. First, I'd like to know that it will not crack and/or break at the mounting points with wind loading. That's a lot of unsupported plastic above those four fasteners that were placed there to hold a much smaller screen. I'm also a CB +2.5 owner. I like the idea of a larger screen for the winter. (Message edited by lowflyer on November 18, 2006) |
Xbimmer
| Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 09:35 pm: |
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I removed my stocker, installed the Buell Tall and removed it faster, then installed a Laminar Lip directly to the flyscreen in place of a shield. The effect is similar to the Cafe Fairing on my BMW that was all the touring protection I ever wanted for over 100k, wind off the chest and clean around the helmet. This Parabellum looks pretty good though. Anybody wanting to secure any shield to the stock lower points with peace of mind, here's the part number: 94485Y, "Recall Kit, Code 0831, W/D HDWR". $19.95 a bit much but quality stuff, replaces the lower push-pins and grommets. I bought the one in front of me since I was originally planning to install the Laminar Lip on my stock shield and didn't want to replicate the original Tall's bailout problem. |
Crusty
| Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 10:01 pm: |
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I really wish Buell would build you guys the sport tourer you're trying to make out of the Uly. So do we. |
Gamdh
| Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 10:36 pm: |
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Are we having fun yet? Never said it was for everyone..I have a specific purpose for a tall shield others may not... ...keep in mind that Charly @Parabellum is responding to a bunch of calls from guys on this board.. he is making what people asked for. If you want something different (shorter etc.).. call him and talk to him about it (contact info can be found on his web site...http://www.parabellum.com/). He's a good guy, knows his stuff and is responding to requests from us. |
Xbimmer
| Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 01:37 am: |
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He's a good guy, knows his stuff and is responding to requests from us. +1. If you ride a GS everybody in the world wants to sell you something for your bike. What's out there for our Uly's? Parabellum's made/makes lots of good stuff for Boxer Bimmers in the past. Since Buell sells a whole lot less bikes than BMW I think this effort for a reasonably trim bigger shield should be welcomed. I think it looks pretty good even though it's more than I'd want for my Uly, attached to the forks at least. Although I'm not advocating it there's nothing like riding past the Ton for distance behind an R- or K-RS fairing in a pocket of still air, on bikes still around the 500lb mark. Those are sport tourers to me. A minimal well-designed frame mount for the Uly would elevate it to exceptional. |
Jackbequick
| Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 09:00 am: |
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I got a windshield with the FXD I bought earlier this year and used it the last couple of months before I put the bike away for the winter. The issues and variables I played with are probably some of the same things you'll want to sort out on any bike. The windshield I got (a Memphis Shades detachable) is 15-1/2" tall above the headlight opening and has a 3" +/- adjustment range. The mounts can be moved up and down on the forks. When I got it I was looking about 6" over the top of the windshield and the buffeting was enough to blur my vision at cruising speeds. I moved it up as high as I could in two or three steps and could feel things change and get better. I was amazed how apparent it is that the windshield creates a "bubble" of quieter air and how raising and lowering it, moving around in it, and changing speeds makes for quite a change. I also played around with raising and lowering my head as I rode and could feel the difference in head buffeting. All in all, I liked it for sustained cruising speeds, especially as it got cooler this fall. It is quick detachable and I'll use it on longer rides. The shield I have is not too large and nicely sized for the FXD, doesn't look too bad on the bike. The shields can be bought in various heights, I think for me and the Dyna, a 17-1/2" mindshield would be perfect. That would put the shield down to just over the headlight and put my line of sight just an inch or so over the top of the windshield. That seems to the height that get the air flow up and over me with a minimum of buffeting. Here is a guide for selecting windshields, the recommendation that the height bring the windshield up to beetween your nose tip and eyes seems to be valid to me: http://www.memphisshades.com/products.shtml Memphis Shades has a sports bike product line too and Buell is listed there but the link is not active, I don't know if that is product that is under deveelopment or what: http://www.memphisshades.com/sportbikes_home.shtml I never wanted a windshield on my M2, a windshield there simply seems inappropriate or to be at cross purposess with that type of bike. I consider a Uly to be more of a long distance ride and might consider one an Uly if I had one. Jack |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 10:38 am: |
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This is an email I got this morning from Parabellum. DEAR ULYSSES OWNER, NOW AVAILABLE..... THE SHIELD FOR THE ULYSSES AND IT ISN'T EVEN ON OUR WEBSITE YET BUT YOU ARE THE FIRST TO KNOW! PASS IT ON! THANK YOU, BRENDA (sales) 706-864-8051 Parabellum Replacement Windshield for the Buell Ulysses The Parabellum replacement windshield for the Buell Ulysses is made from D.O.T. approved 5mm (3/16) thick cast military aircraft grade acrylic, specified for optical clarity. The windshield mounts like the stock windshield but is taller and wider than stock. The stock height shield is 11 inches high and 12.5 inches wide. Parabellum's shield is 18.5 wide and comes in a variety of heights to fit riders of all heights. Heights available 22" (pictured) 24" (good for average height person) 26" 28" (+$25) Clear.............$179 Tint................$189 DEAR ULYSSES OWNER, NOW AVAILABLE..... THE SHIELD FOR THE ULYSSES AND IT ISN'T EVEN ON OUR WEBSITE YET BUT YOU ARE THE FIRST TO KNOW! PASS IT ON! THANK YOU, BRENDA (sales) 706-864-8051 Parabellum Replacement Windshield for the Buell Ulysses The Parabellum replacement windshield for the Buell Ulysses is made from D.O.T. approved 5mm (3/16) thick cast military aircraft grade acrylic, specified for optical clarity. The windshield mounts like the stock windshield but is taller and wider than stock. The stock height shield is 11 inches high and 12.5 inches wide. Parabellum's shield is 18.5 wide and comes in a variety of heights to fit riders of all heights. Heights available 22" (pictured) 24" (good for average height person) 26" 28" (+$25) Clear.............$179 Tint................$189
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Nutsosane
| Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 10:49 am: |
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With all due respect to those of you who are interested in this sort of thing: I still don't get it. The Uly is not a BMW GS! Never was intended to mimic it either. This is farkle ad nauseum. NUTS |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 10:59 am: |
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Just info being passed on. Your feet aren't being held to the fire. |
Lastcyclone
| Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 11:02 am: |
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I think it looks pretty cool. Little on the pricey side. Who owns that bike? Is that a throttlemeister? |
Brad1445
| Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 11:22 am: |
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That looks like one of the better designed after markets out there. Well Done. |
Mainstreamer
| Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 11:58 am: |
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+ 1 for Parabellum, thanks for supporting the Buell community. Also +1 to Michael for you participation and support of this project. It's ALL good! |
Lowflyer
| Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 12:05 pm: |
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Nuts, What is "it" that you need to "get?" It's just a friggin' windscreen. Farkles are farkles regardless of the bike make or model. If you don't like farkles, don't buy them. One man's trash is another man's farkle. |
Nutsosane
| Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 01:28 pm: |
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I just feel Erik and the Elves built this bike in a different vein than a traditional sports tourer or adventure bike. I feel products like these don't make a bike better just different. I'm not insulting Parrabellum or Cee Bailey or any other Buell supporter, rather questioning the goal. With a screen that big I would suspect serious wind buffeting through the bars affecting steering/handling. I'd rather have wind on my body than causing constant steering issues. I am 6'3" and squeezed myself onto my 04 Lightning for 10k miles until Uly came along. I feel the bike was purpose built for my size and my style of riding. There must be a large number of Ulyists who don't find themselves as comfortable on the stock bike. I guess I'll have to work on being more understanding; one of my many faults. I promise no more aftermarket product bashing. Ladies and Gentlemen...farkle away. NUTS |
Gamdh
| Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 02:00 pm: |
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Thats my bike and no its not a throttlemeister.. its the HVMP Bar Ends. The screen they are showing is the same one at the top of the post. I now have the very 'tall' one mounted... stay tuned. And as for quality.. it is much better than the Cee Baily .. just my $.02 and a few unsolicited comments from this morning's ride. |
Gamdh
| Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 02:16 pm: |
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Nuts.. just an fyi.. the screen pictured really is smooth...really no noticeable buffeting and no issues with steering and we had some pretty strong winds here in North GA this morning...didn't notice anything unusual as far as handling. Charly mentioned that the ideal compromise for windsheild angle was 40degrees... which provides best over all performance (Charly can explain much better than I ever could). When I picked up the bike.. he showed the angle with his screen and it was dead on 40 degrees. Also shows that Buell engineering was on the ball also as it just matchs the angle of the fly screen. And for the record.. he is making a big screen because that's what everyone that called/emailed him is asking for. (Message edited by gamdh on November 19, 2006 - keep forgetting to mention stuff) (Message edited by gamdh on November 19, 2006) |
Javadog
| Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 02:48 pm: |
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Gamdh- Help me clarify something. The shield you have is the short, which is called the 22 inch but on your website measures 14 3/4? What is your height and inseam measurement?I also had the CB 16 inch and ended up trashing it because it was so bad. Can you post a picture of you on your bike so I can see how high the top of the screen is compared to your helmet? I would like to try the shield out to be sure I got the right one before shelling out another $200 on what would be my THIRD windshield! However it is getting very close to the end of the riding season. Thanks. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 02:58 pm: |
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I think we're getting closer. When your bike craps an alien on your face, you're there! |