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Treadmarks
| Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 07:12 am: |
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After installing the 07 airbox and K&N filter, I couldn't help but notice the tiny air box cover inlet behind the fuel cap. Is this the only place the engine gets it's air from? |
Adrian_8
| Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 01:46 pm: |
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There might be some air get in around the air box cover but the little cutout by the gas cap it pretty much it...a matching hole in the air box behind the screen would be nice. |
Treadmarks
| Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 02:13 pm: |
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I just don't get it, the new 07 airbox has like 20+ square inches of venting, but the airbox cover only has that little slot behind the gas cap?? |
Snowscum
| Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 02:18 pm: |
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Keeps the elements out.....Water,snow,rocks.... |
Red_chili
| Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 02:44 pm: |
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small children and slow old people... OOPS! That would be what I am almost... EEEEK! |
Asdf
| Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 04:06 pm: |
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There is much more air access to the inner air box cover than just the intake port in the outer cover near the fuel tank cap. Check out the gap between the outer air box cover and the frame. Then, take off the outer cover and notice all of the open area for air flow that comes from under the frame. Air has no problem getting to the inner air box cover. However, some folks may be concerned that much of that air, that which comes from around the engine and frame rails, has been heated up by the engine.... That is another matter altogether. Have Fun! |
Bosezone
| Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 09:57 pm: |
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Treadmarks - did you notice an incredible improvement in the character of the motor with the K&N and 07 air box? Man, I did. My 06 motor seems to run better in every respect and no more "torq hole" at 3-4K RPM. It throttles better, pulls a bit harder at top end and even sounds better. I was amazed. |
Red_chili
| Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 09:53 am: |
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Bose, did you get your ECM reflashed for the airbox cover? What altitude are you at? |
Red_chili
| Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 02:34 pm: |
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Ah, you answered in another thread. Still stock ECM no reflash. |
Treadmarks
| Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 03:03 pm: |
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Treadmarks - did you notice an incredible improvement in the character of the motor with the K&N and 07 air box? With the K&N filter, 07 airbox and race ECM and servo wired open=huge difference. I'm working on getting a slip on to hold me till I settle on a complete system and matching map. I will be looking for a rain friendly vented top cover then. |
Bosezone
| Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 08:20 pm: |
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Funny thing is, I have always switched between stock setup and race ECM/K&N/Drummer. The Race ECM/K&N/drummer setup improves the bottom quite a bit over stock. I also tried all stock except added the K&N and felt a slight but noticable improvement all around compared to stock, but not equal in bottom end to when the Drummer is on. Then I went stock with K&N/07 airbox and feel this is the BEST combo of all in terms of overall performance and gives nothing up to the full race kit. Strange but true. the K&N/07 air box made a huge difference when used with the stock pipe and stock ECM. The 07 box made no major difference with the Drummer/Race ECM/K&N. And Red_chili I'm about 900 ft above sea level. |
Fastfxrs
| Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 09:49 am: |
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Is it true that the re-flash for the stock ECM is free with purchase of the '07 air box? Does anyone have any experience using the '07 airbox with stock filter? If so, any noticable difference over stock '06? thanks, Tim |
Teeps
| Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 10:38 am: |
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Fastfxrs Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 Is it true that the re-flash for the stock ECM is free with purchase of the '07 air box? Unless Buell issues a Product Update or Recall; We are not entitled to a free '07 upgrade to the ECM. Now if you're chummy with your local H-D Service Dept. you may convince them to do it for free, but I have my doubts. |
Bosezone
| Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 11:26 pm: |
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I have to wonder why the re-flash. I have the 07 airbox and a K&N installed with everything else stock and the improvement is pretty amazing in my view. So...if a reflash is required...but the fueling is great, even better than before...why reflash??? The only reason I can think of is emissions/EPA. So I wonder if the re-flash leans out the EFI a bit or something. Anyone get the re-flash yet? Any difference? Notice any decrease in throttle control or performance? |
Alchemy
| Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 01:54 pm: |
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Bosezone, maybe I missed it but have you checked your mileage with the 07 airbox, K&N and stock pipe and ECM? |
Bosezone
| Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 01:59 pm: |
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No I didn't. Interesting idea though. If I get a chance to run another tank of fuel out up here in Northern IL I will report. Ridin season is just about over here. |
Adrian_8
| Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 04:33 pm: |
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Bosezone...my thoughts exactly..a reflash might put it back to EPA specs ..my gas mileage has gotten a little worse but the bike runs better...more air+more fuel=faster. I pulled the plugs with the modified box and they read perfect..it's not broke so I ain't fixing it. |
Bosezone
| Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 10:08 pm: |
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Ride on. I agree Adrian. It runs better and I really can't fault anything about the way it's running now...it's really fueling good and no doubt making more power. I ain't messin with it. |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 10:41 pm: |
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My plugs have run on the rich side since opening up the airbox cover. I'm going to have mine reflashed and they said it would cost me 34 bucks. |
Adrian_8
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 01:46 pm: |
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Electraglider...it is odd that you are running rich with more air...you would think it would be on the lean side..is your air filter clean with none of the oily mess on the element? |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 02:54 pm: |
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We are not talking carburetion here, this is electronic fuel injection. Anyways, I had them reflash mine today and it cost me 34 bucks + tax. They had to use the 07 calibration out of a Lightning Long. I am assuming it is the same as the 07 ULY. Anybody know any different?? Seems to run just fine. They haven't ordered any 07 ULYs. Buell screwed themselves with that high seat they started with. |
Red_chili
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 03:47 pm: |
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Electra, if you are running a tad rich, and if others' reports of reduced surging at cruise are correlated, it makes me wonder... Anywho, I ordered an 07 box from Daves, should be here any day... Race filter next month maybe. Interesting... a *tad* rich is where I'd like to be! Ain't EFI fun? |
Adrian_8
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 06:07 pm: |
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Electra..I know it has FI...and the FI will adjust for altitude,temp and other things. So if the engine is getting more air the FI could be adding fuel, perhaps in your case too much. A tad rich is where I like it too. Just don't tell our "Friend" the EPA. |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 08:27 pm: |
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Adrian, Problem was, 200 miles after opening the holes in the airbox cover my rear cylinder plug fouled. I checked the front plug also and it was black. I'm hoping this reflash does the trick. |
Chrisb
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 08:29 pm: |
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I installed a 07 box today. Very noticable difference. If your debating the purchase its no brainer. |
Birdmanrh
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 08:58 pm: |
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Chrisb, Did you get the re-flash? Just curious what the issue of not getting it is? I ask because I am betting the wonderful dealers that I have near me will never be capable of understanding how to do it, let alone agree to do it if they could. |
Teeps
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 09:24 pm: |
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Birdmanrh Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 I ask because I am betting the wonderful dealers that I have near me will never be capable of understanding how to do it, let alone agree to do it if they could. Birdman, Help them out with this info supplied by Josh_cox http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142838/227593.html?1160714147 |
Adrian_8
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 10:03 pm: |
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Electra..I hope the reflash helps you...I fouled a plug early in my ULY ownership too. I think it was caused when I overfilled the oil tank and all the extra oil misted, sprayed,and slopped, onto the filter from those two nasty little overflow/vent tubes in the airbox. This brings up another project...after warranty how to get rid of those vent tubes so they do not oil up the airbox. There are catch can contraptions that work..another project down the road. Idea guys have at it... |
Bmwdavid
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 10:44 pm: |
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I just put on the '07 air box cover on my '06 Uly. Stock muffler no reflash. Best $35 spent on this bike! Bike pulls much nicer through the gears. This is more like it! Engine really revs up quicker as you roll on the throttle. Nice sound also! Not that much louder but does sound good as you open throttle. I'm not going for the reflash as bike feels fine...no lean or rich indication. Thanks to Dave at Appleton Buell! David |
Thespive
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 12:56 am: |
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I just put the '07 airbox on my CityX. A little more intake noise, but it seems to pull a bit harder and smoother, best part is the quicker throttle response. You feel that at every RPM, especially in the city where I ride. --Sean |