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Davegess
Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This just in, all the pundits claiming that H-D earnings were ready to take a dive seem to be right. Todays earnings annoucment...



Wait, I was reading it upside down

from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Harley-Davidson Inc. (HOG) today reported an 18% increase in third-quarter earnings, beating analysts' estimates by 10 cents a share

Looks like the ride continues
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Court
Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

"Yeah.....but just wait"

Commonly Heard - Circa 1987

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Daves
Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just like Buell was supposed to be out of business about 4 years ago.
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Doerman
Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell has pulled in $93M in revenue last year and heading towards over $100M this year. Not bad! But the increase in the first three quarters of 2006 compared to 2005 is weak.

They got a boost with the Uly last year I guess.
Asbjorn

(Message edited by doerman on October 12, 2006)
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Cadhopper
Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess we all need to go buy another Buell to raise there earnings.
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Bueaddicted
Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Next year I might buy a Uly... I need something for long rides.
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why would this supprise any one?

Great to see the mother ship doing well,

Better to see Buell doing well,
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Cochise
Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are definitely a ton of Uly's being sold. It seems like a majority of the registrations on the American Thunderbike Club have been Uly owners.
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Rocketman
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 05:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And still they refuse to invest in a serious race program.

Rocket
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Court
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 05:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't get hit by the sky. . . .
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Brucelee
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

With the advent of the 2007 line changes and the talk of the new Sportster, I think HD's financial picture will actually improve over the next few years.

And, I don't think they are done with the product changes.

I expect same of Buell over the next couple years.

Where is that touring bike I want?
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Blake
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"And still they refuse to invest in a serious race program."

Wrong. They are the defending NHRA pro-stock motorcycle drag racing champions and always run well in American dirt tracking.
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Court
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wrong. They've just announced they'll be backing AMA Formula FX racing and the contingency program in 2007.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And still they refuse to invest in a serious race program.

My motorcycle 'purchase criteria' doesn't include whether or not some super-modified form of it has ever won a race. I've never even seen a motorcycle race in person* or on TV.

I would rather them spend the money on R&D for new colors and chrome bits. ;)

*unless BattleTrax counts. In that case my Sportster has won a race.

(Message edited by chainsaw on October 13, 2006)
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Rocketman
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wrong. They are domestic race series catering to an American market.

I'd love to see Buell in WSB or Moto GP.

It won't make me want to buy a Buell from the current line-up but I'd like to see Mr Buell at least challenge the world coz so far he's made me look a bit of a fool in front of my superbike friends.

Rocket
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It won't make me want to buy a Buell from the current line-up but I'd like to see Mr Buell at least challenge the world coz so far he's made me look a bit of a fool in front of my superbike friends.


Naw, you're fully capable of doing that without Erik's assistance.
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Davegess
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd love to see Buell in WSB or Moto GP.

Give just a little more time Rocket. I am pretty sure he will do it when he can. And he will do it differnetly.
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Court
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>I am pretty sure he will do it when he can.

That's an accurate statement.
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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Crusty your killing me....... Must be something about us older guys and giving a sh t about what others say and think.

This bike is the most selfish purchase I have ever made.......And you know it had nothing to do with racing, buddys, wife or kids. It was all about making me happy.
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Brucelee
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It won't make me want to buy a Buell from the current line-up but I'd like to see Mr Buell at least challenge the world coz so far he's made me look a bit of a fool in front of my superbike friends.

I am still laughing at this! If your "friends" think you are a fool, maybe you don't need a different bike.

Just a guess.
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Jon
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 01:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been upset at the lack of any real Buell dinnerware or neckties.

When is this company going to get serious!?
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Rocketman
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 06:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You're still kicking around the same old same old................... at least 8 years down the line.

I like my Buell and I like V twin power a hell of a lot, but I couldn't face another Buell until they dare to come up with something similar and better than a Brutale.

I'm 45 going on 25 and I have been wanting two things from Buell since I bought mine back in 1998. I have wanted a world beating S1 that could break 150MPH, and I wanted Buell to enter the world stage in racing. What you got instead was a bike pretending to be for 25 year olds but bought by old (mainly American) farts. As for the racing. What racing?

">>>>I am pretty sure he will do it when he can" is an accurate statement because 'pretty sure' is NO commitment.

I'm pretty sure I'll fly to the moon one day. Am I delusional too?

Rocket
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"You're still kicking around the same old same old................... at least 8 years down the line."

If that is true for Buell, then it is also true for Ducati, and all of Japan Inc.

"Better" is a nebulous and very personally subjective characteristic when it comes to a motorcycle.

What a silly notion. Buells pretend to be for 25 year olds? LOL! Where do you get this stuff?

Are you delusional? Maybe, sometimes. Are you a jackass? Definitely, sometimes. Please stop with the personal insults. : |
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Brucelee
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Am I delusional too?"

Yes, yes you are!
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Bikertrash05
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And a day after the record profits announcement: http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=518727
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Davegess
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They need to address the health insurance thing for employees and retirees before they end up like GM. No time like the present, if you wait until you are hurting it is too late.

They are just doing what they need to do to survive. I also beleive that this is the first step in a negotiated process and it woudl not be public if the State of Wisconsin was not involved. HD has a long history of working things out with the unions to the benefit of both.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...and with bringing the Union in early and saying "hey, you know what's best and what you can and can not do. Look it over, let's work out something that serves us both well"

At that point the Union, rightfully, has ownership and responsibility.

There is seldom a better way to decide that to enfranchise those who will suffer most from a bad decision.

Read "WELL MADE IN AMERICA" for the details of how Harley-Davidson does this.

Don't think for a moment the article refers to HD making the Union a "take it or we walk" offer. Harley-Davidson got where they are working WITH the Unions, not holding them in check.
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Rocketman
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

C'mon Blake, there's no personal insults in this thread except the ones thrown at me. End of the day my comments might be provocative, but there's an element of truth to them, and provocation should send a strong message. Am I not entitled to send this type of message because I wish Buell to race on the world stage rather than settle for playing at home?

No point in arguing but your Ducati reference, well they were not in Moto GP 8 years ago. Nor were Buell...............

Rocket
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Buellgirlie
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the union vote will be interesting to watch.


D
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Curtyd
Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"What you got instead was a bike pretending to be for 25 year olds but bought by old (mainly American) farts. " ROCKET

I guess even in the UK 45 is OLD, OLD, OLD...now where is that AARP application? Do you think they can get discounts on motorcycles?
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