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Eboos
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that Hayden will not succeed unless he either gets second or better in both races or Rossi really bombs one.
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I say we should ask this guy:






G2
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My emotions say "GO NICKY" but my head says "SCREW HONDA" - long story but I'm an ABH kinda guy - ANYBODY But Honda, ANYTHING But Honda

Kinda surprised that Nicky didn't ratchet it up since he's signed already for next season so there's nothing to lose (as far as his seat next year)

12 points, 2 races, it COULD still go to Rossi.

It's gonna be an interesting end to the season regardless
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Bads1
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hoping Hayden pulls it off. I like Rossi and all but I'm ready to see a change. Is Nicky the man.... we'll see soon enough I guess.
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Jimidan
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are several riders who are riding better than Nicky right now, and it is going to be hard for him to hold on for two more races. That may change but Rossi is All-World right now, and Capirossi and Marco Melandri are really turning up the heat too. Nicky was lucky to get a 5th. He is in a tough spot, for sure.

It didn't look like he was riding that hard today, but we didn't get to see much of him. I hope he pulls it off, but I don't believe he will as Rossi is just too good. I think he will come in second for the season and Melandri third...but Capirossi could have something to say about that.

Go Nicky!
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 05:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anything could happen with just two races left, and a DNF for either of them would pretty much finish it straight away.

Having said that, Nicky isn't riding like a 'World Champion Elect' right now, and really needs to ride for each race rather than conservatively ride for the championship. Neither of the works Hondas were particularly impressive at Motegi (a track owned by Honda).
Last years race in Portugal was wet, so the result doesn't mean much for this year, except the rossi was once again on the podium of course : )
Personally I really hope that Rossi can pull it off once more, simply because he has once again been the outstanding rider of the year and if not for mechanical failure would have the series sewn up by now.
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Jimidan
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well put, Trojan man. BTW, I have always enjoyed using your products too.

jimidan
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Moboy516
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would like to see Nicky win, but Valentino is riding like someone on a mission. I think that Capirossi would have won if it weren't for the crash mid-season. If I were going to bet, I would put my stake in Rossi. One mechanical failure or crash and everything changes.

I also hope that Garry McCoy gets to race on an 800 in the last two, as has been rumored.
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Rocketman
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the championship would have been between Rossi and Capirossi had they had different luck at the beginning and mid season respectively.

Mathematically that would have pitched Hayden, Melandri and Pedrosa fighting for third right now.

Hayden I thought rode well on Sunday. He fought hard and fast to get 5th in the end. I just don't think his luck is running at the moment.

We made comment the other day about the British guys we thought capable of doing well in Moto GP given the right machines. Shakey Burn is a hard charger, I was reading in MCN this past week that Shakey had said no one could have ridden the Suzuki any harder than he had, but they were welcome to try. His comments were in response to rumours that his jobs on the line at Suzuki. He went on to say he'd be happy to see someone else on the Suzuki coz when they fall off everyone will know just how hard Shakey had ridden it to do so well this season. God loves a trier.

Rocket
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Jimidan
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I think the championship would have been between Rossi and Capirossi had they had different luck at the beginning and mid season respectively."

That's racing...your machine has to finish for you to score points. Man and machine...

jimidan
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think Hopper and Vermuelin have done admirably on the Suzukis.

If, if, if... I'm with Jimi, that is neither here nor there, but here's another for the what-ifrs... What if Rossi had been given a proper penalty for passing under yellow? I suspect that Hayden is going to win this chamnpionship, and he won't do it by T-boning anyone off the track either.
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 04:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If, if, if... I'm with Jimi, that is neither here nor there, but here's another for the what-ifrs... What if Rossi had been given a proper penalty for passing under yellow? I suspect that Hayden is going to win this chamnpionship, and he won't do it by T-boning anyone off the track either.

Champions become champions by taking risks and riding harder than everyone else, and getting away with them. Ayrton Senna used to push really hard on cold tyres in F1 to get an early advantage, even though he risked crashing and it eventually took his life. Schumacher is another who pushed everything (including the rule book) to the absolute limit with success. At the top level talent is not enough and a cold hard ruthless streak has to be there too. That is one of the things that sets Rossi apart from everyone else in MotoGP at the moment.
If Nicky (or anyone else) wants to beat Rossi then he shouldn't have to reley on dubious penalties to do it, he just has to get out there and win races.
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Bdabuell
Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...he just has to get out there and win races.

too true...Rossi has the ability to go out there and win a race. Somehow he's able to just turn it up to another level when he needs to, regardless of what's going on around him.

I don't think Nicky has that yet...he's obviously a great talent, and I think a crown is somewhere in his future...

...but Rossi can take it again...go Vale!!
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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really hope Nicky can pull it off.
That said, Rossi is going to beat him.
If Rossi hadn't had the DNFs this year( I think there were 2?) he would, as stated above by Matt,have had the championship all wrapped up.
Of course, if he didn't ride such a POS Yamaha he wouldn't have had the DNFs
(I am just kidding, just a little something for the Buell haters out there that think Buell is the only bike to ever DNF)
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Jimidan
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is still Nicky's championship to lose...you guys have already written him off. He will not go down without a real fight, and he may crash out in the process. I suspect his tentative late season posture has been more about team orders than what he feels he wants to do. I will bet that they are telling him not to crash at all costs...but that isn't going to work this late in the season with Rossi on the march.

Go Nicky!
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12r
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whenever the top 5 guys run together in a straight race, Hayden is not the best and for me it would be a disappointing end to the 990 cc era if Hayden is champion by default.
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would love to see Nicky win.
I am just saying, unless something happens to Rossi like another DNF or, and I hope it doesn't happen, a crash then Rossi is going to take the championship away from him.
In heads up racing, Rossi is faster. Period.
I am not a huge Rossi fan but the guy can ride.

I would rather Nicky wins it.

Go Nicky!
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12r
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)




Rossi demands that Hayden take back what he said about his mother
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Eboos
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone see a similarity?


chimpirossi
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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's pretty harsh
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is still Nicky's championship to lose...you guys have already written him off. He will not go down without a real fight, and he may crash out in the process. I suspect his tentative late season posture has been more about team orders than what he feels he wants to do. I will bet that they are telling him not to crash at all costs...but that isn't going to work this late in the season with Rossi on the march.

I think that Nicky is still not mentally strong enough to be 'The Boss' in the Honda garage either. If he was he would have told Honda where to shove their experimental new parts every race and just got on with winning. Can you imagine Rossi putting up with being treated like a test rider every race? The biggest single difference is that Yamaha listen to Rossi and do as he asks. Honda come up with parts and tell Nicky to use them.
Personally I would love to see any manufacturer other than Honda win the title, but that is because of all the dirty tricks and whining that Honda do every year, nothing to do with riders.

(Message edited by trojan on September 27, 2006)
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)







You started it ! : )
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Bdabuell
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Bdabuell
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is still Nicky's championship to lose...you guys have already written him off.

I'm not writing Nicky off...I'm definitely a Nicky fan...I've never screamed louder for anyone at any event that I have for the last 2 years at Laguna Seca for Nicky Hayden

...but I'm also a big Rossi fan...and I think he's a level above Nicky, and all the others for that matter...

Has Nicky got the potential/ability to be there? Absolutely. Is he there now? No IMHO

In heads up racing, Rossi is faster. Period.

very true
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No. BTW that Monkey has more talent and money than most of us combined. Rossi will kick Haydens @ss the last 2 races.
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Eboos
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With that money, he could hire this guy to stand in for his press conferences.


hat
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12r
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 04:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Personally I would love to see any manufacturer other than Honda win the title, but that is because of all the dirty tricks and whining that Honda do every year, nothing to do with riders
Honda have already won the Manufacturer's title for this year (a record 17th time) and that's enough for them. Call me Mr.Cynical but do they really care if Hayden wins the Rider's championship ? I think not.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 06:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ugly or not, he's taking the title. Hayden just doesn't have what it takes. Him being where he is right now was a gift. Nothing to do with his ability. Which, frankly, isn't close to Rossi. Hayden is a great rider. But not the best. Not even close.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You're funny. Leading the MotoGP championship is a "gift" and has "nothing to do with his ability"? Unbelievable!

Nicky has beaten Rossi six times this year and finished 2nd to Rossi's first place twice. That ain't luck, and it certainly is testament to Nicky's ability.

What Rossi has right now is momentum. That can change in an instant.

Go Hayden!
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