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Elmono
| Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 08:37 pm: |
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OK how the heck do I get this thing off? Shortened 5/16 allen wrench? Didn't I read somewhere that someone makes a tool for this? Thanks, Chad. |
Mmmi_grad
| Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 09:53 pm: |
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yost performance products makes one yes its a special wrench american sportbike has them |
Patrickh
| Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 10:35 pm: |
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you can grind down a 25 cent wrench you buy at any hardware store. do you have access to a bench grinder? some would say that you can use a ball end hex but I disagree. I think it puts torque on in a bad way. |
Sandblast
| Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 11:00 pm: |
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Seriously, grind down a regular one. It works great. Hang onto it too, you'll use it for other stuff later. |
Smoke
| Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 05:41 am: |
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hacksaw and file works pretty good on that allen wrench if you dont have a grinder. lube those intake seals when you put the manifold back on. ride safe, tim |
Jayvee
| Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 01:26 pm: |
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The 'special tool' from Yost is just bent about 45 degrees, I could hardly use it, maybe for one bolt. It needs to be bent 90 degrees. (Or, could be, I just didn't find the right angle to use it.) Definitely easier, when I got an allen wrench for $1.25 from OSH and cut down the short end. |
Jackbequick
| Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 08:27 pm: |
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5/16"? Or 3/16"? Either way, I cut one off with my Dremel too and kept the little piece that I cut off. You can drop that in the socket and use a six point electrical (small) box end on it. Ball end socket wrenches serve two purposes. They are okay for rapidly advancing a freely turning Allen bolt until the slightest resistance is felt. From that point on they are good for stripping pieces out of the Allen sockets and ensuring that that no Allen wrench will ever work in it again. Jack |
Robr
| Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 10:50 pm: |
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With the help of a vise, a Sawzall with a fine metal cutting blade and lots of oil will cut one down pretty easy as well. |
Tnm2
| Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 11:01 pm: |
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Yet another way to do this: I took a 3/16" allen head bit - you get these all the time with cordless screwdrivers and drills - put it in the bolt head and turned it with a 1/4" gear wrench. I'm just too lazy to keep futzing with a regular allen key. |
Buellzebub
| Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 01:28 pm: |
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that 3/16" stub works wonders for the rear rocker box screw that hides just under the frame tube too! |
Aaomy
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 12:43 pm: |
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your intake manifold bolts should be 1/4".. you can use a gear wrench or a standard 12 point box end to rotate a chunk of cut off hex wrench, or use the back end of a single ended universal screwdriver bit.. they are 1/4" hex also.. and most people have a couple stripped phillips laying around some where.. the other option is to replace the bolt when they are out. one company makes 12 point hex heads just for that purpose.. i have the 12 points on the left side but had to use the 6 point socket heads for the right side of the bike, due to the moddified breather set up.. hope this helps.. |
Oldog
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 02:16 pm: |
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Aaomy! good to see your still amongst us.. |
Sarodude
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 02:32 pm: |
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So what size allen wrench or bit? 3/16, 1/4, or 5/16? -Saro |
Aaomy
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 02:48 pm: |
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oldog,,,, good to hear from you..a while ago every thing seemed to be getting a little crazy on bad web.. in several ways.. got so i didnt want to post anything in fear of enraging an argument.. so i tool a little vacation.. looks like things have calmed down ( im very glad ) so im back.. missed this place while i was gone.. a cut down 3/16 allen is just the trick for rocker cover bolts,,, a 1/4 is what you need for the intake ones. can double check when i get home if it makes you feel better? |
Eengler2
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 07:40 pm: |
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I just finished both the intake seals(PAIN in the rear) and rocker gaskets last weekend. 1/4" for intake 3/16" for rockers I cut down the small end with the dremel cut off wheel and cleaned up with a file. (Message edited by eengler2 on August 16, 2006) |
Henrik
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 09:09 pm: |
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Hi Aaron Good to see you back. Henrik |
Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 10:12 pm: |
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I just about went into shock there for a second. |
Leftcoastal
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 11:17 pm: |
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Now that the manifold wrench situation is fully sorted out for Elmono - lets HIJACK this thread and get Aaron to make some more of those totally bitchin' aluminum parts on his mill & lathe! Coolest stuff on the whole freaking planet! Welcome Back! Now - get to posting those photos! AL |
Oldog
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:57 am: |
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Dayum lefty, gonna skeer him off!
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Aaomy
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:22 pm: |
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arrrrr,,, what a lot of pitrates yeee bee??? hi jacking another sea dawgs thread.. leaving poor lad scuttled with no wind in his sails..or intake manifold???? good to here from you all... henrik,, hows the s2 comming???? blake,, sorry,, didnt mean to scare you... hey lefty,,, dont remember the last project i posted.. some time i need to do a search and figure out what projects are hidden in the depths of bad web and what ones i just never posted... tonight i should work on some exhaust brackets but dont have the digital camera with .. sorry.. |
Sarodude
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:49 pm: |
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So I went & bought a sacrificial 1/4" allen. I cut off a little lunk from the short end, stuck it in the bolt, slipped the box end of my 1/4" wrench over it, and proceeded to break the open end. The short end of the wrench was cut too close to the deformation caused by the bend so I couldn't get it to engage. Had to go help my brother in law with his FI remapping shenanigans - so all I got to do was ask for my lifetime replacement Cra(ft/p)sman wrench. This sucks. -Saro |
Aaomy
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 01:52 pm: |
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make sure to get the boxend as close to the head of the bolt as possible,, also make sure the allen wrench is seated as far in the head of the bolt as possible.. if you have some or want to get some there is a product called screw grab.. dont remember its other names.. that helps enhance the torque capabilities of the allen head bit.. its kinda like sand for tires on ice.. hope some of this stuff helps,, aaron |
Henrik
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 10:22 pm: |
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A brief thread-jack; the S2 is coming along - slower than I'd planned considering I'm hoping for a trip to NC in - oh, 2 1/2 weeks and I still have most of the bike scattered all over the garage. But hopefully parts will come streaming in next week and I can begin putting stuff back together Btw. I bit the bullet and bought a set of ISR hand controls; brake and clutch. I'll post pictures when I get them. Henrik |
Oldog
| Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 10:37 am: |
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Henrik: Are you going to try to meet up with Ferris? |
Buellzebub
| Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 01:45 pm: |
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valve grindin' compound will work same as the screw grab, a little dab goes a long way. oops my bad, intake hex socket is 1/4". the hex bit trick works well. |
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