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Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 05:04 pm: |
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I cut a section out of the bottom of my Cee Bailey 16+ with a sears sabre saw and then added the handlebar mount hardware that comes with the Slipstreamer windshield. You can see in the bottom photo where I bent the plastic at the bottom of the modified CB with a heat gun to make it fit. The bottom is fastened to the handlebars with plastic cable cinch ties. I took it out on the highway to 70 mph and it works quite well. Still plenty of diffused breeze around my body but pretty quiet around my helmet. It is a 16+ windshield but because of the way I've mounted it there is some leeway on how high or low you can place it. Right now it is set up so that the top is 18" above the cross brace of the handlebar. The angle is very adjustable but also very solid once the crossbar hardware is tightened. It comes up to somewhere between my chin and mouth. Haven't tried it without the Buell windscreen. Anyway it kind of looks like how they do the Parabellum windshields but only cost me my time. I'll test this one out for a while and probably think of ways to adjust it or not. Anyway, I like its adjustability and strength of mount. I like the Slipstreamer also but alas it must make its way back on my wife's bike along with the borrowed hardware.
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Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 01:14 pm: |
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I really like riding behind this windshield. Hard to believe but the stock fly screen actually shakes with at least twice the amplitude as the larger windscreen. Those two rods apparently really do the trick. Slipstreamer sells those rods in a hardware kit if anyone is interested. I rode with a novelty helmet this morning for a short ride and without ear plugs. Very quiet except of the motor of course. |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 09:27 pm: |
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I took it up to 90 mph today with no problem whatsoever. The air hits the top of my helmet. Riding at speed is now a pleasure for the first time since I got this bike. |
Retired_cop
| Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 10:10 am: |
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EG1997, On another thread it was mentioned we are testing a modification recommended by Bailey's. It looks as if you are in the same ballpark as we are with relieving some of the negative air pressure behind the screen. It appears as if the negative/low pressure causes a lot of air to be pulled upward from around the frame area directly into the bottom of the riders face/helmt creating a large amount of buffeting/noise. The slot/hole we have put in our 16" screens seem to take about 85% of that away. As soon as I can talk with the other owner who just returned or is returning from a country wide trip, including Alaska, and we can compare notes I will repost the results. |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 10:38 am: |
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I just want to make it clear that riding behind this modified CB is not like riding in a car. Maybe it would be if it were wider, but my body gets hit by plenty of air, only it's not 80 mph air. It really makes this bike a pleasure to ride. I mean, I've got the stock exhaust and now I can hear the engine humming while I'm riding instead of the wind buffeting a racket into my skull. The other thing is that I was riding one handed at 70mph because now the wind isn't tugging me all over the place. This has made my ULY a much better ride. I also want to emphasize how solid the mounting is compare to attaching it to the fairing. With it mounted to the fairing it was kind of embarrassing at stoplights to have the top of the CB wobbling with the throb of the engine. This handlebar mounting hardly moves. (Message edited by electraglider_1997 on July 17, 2006) |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 11:52 am: |
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Love it. The faster I go the better it works. The hardware for this modified CB is $36.32 tax included. It's Slipstreamer hardware #A1A for the Hellfire windscreen. Had to buy it so that I could put the wife's windshield back on her Radian. It's funny that the stock windscreen vibrates while this modified CB doesn't. I know that some of you bought the CB windscreen and the buffeting is way more than annoying. Give the mod a try. You won't regret it. |
Lowflyer
| Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 01:46 pm: |
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Okay, I apologize up front here because I know my opinion stinks. I am glad you are happy with it EG, and I don't doubt for a split-second that it works great, but your wind screen setup looks like pile of aborted cat fetuses covered in burnt hair.
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Aeholton
| Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 03:06 pm: |
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Actually that's a bit harsher than I would put it, but it does look a little jury-rigged. Although if all you are looking for is functionality, that's all that matters. Enjoy the ride. |
Pso
| Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 05:33 pm: |
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Just out of curiosity, have you tried it woithout the fly screen on it? |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 07:41 pm: |
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Lowflyer, Tell me what you really think about it. By the way, do you have any friends? Pso, No real difference that I could tell. But if it rains, I want it on there. Anyway, I like it. I doubt that any other windshield so far that works as well as this one, unless someone has set one up similar to this setup. I wish you guys were near enough to try it out. It really transforms this bike. Riding behind those stock flyscreens really bites and I'm surprised that Buell engineered those things. I mean, it's kind of like they said, "throw one on and we'll figure out something later and then sell them another one" and then they sell another one that they have to recall them because they didn't read about CeeBailey 4+ screens spontaneously launching themselves. I mean, come on, wind at 60+ mph is a very powerful force. Especially side gusts and strong head winds. Most of the moto mags that tested this ULY made a comment about the poor wind protection. I'll bet quite a few demo riders have had less than a favorable impression because of the crappy wind protection. How many of you guys that have this bike think that the wind protection is great? I do...now. |
Lowflyer
| Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 07:44 pm: |
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Aeholton
| Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 08:36 pm: |
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How many of you guys that have this bike think that the wind protection is great? I like the way my laminar lip performs. Be careful what you say about the Buell engineers and the windshield. You may get folks riled up like they are about the right side scoop.
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Lorazepam
| Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 09:11 pm: |
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EG, I guess it depends on what kind of riding you were doing prior to buying your Ulysses. My previous bike used the wind as part of your riding position. It had what is referred to as the "crotch rocket positioning" by those who favor forward controls. I have friends now who say the Uly is the same. I consider the Uly seating to be very upright, and the screen did an ok job most of the time. It is impossible to design a screen on an unfaired bike that will work for everyone. I am guessing that most of your riding has been on cruiser type bikes. I am glad that your setup is working for you, but it isnt my cup of tea. |
Rkc00
| Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 09:17 pm: |
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I did the same thing last year. It worked OK but did not look that good. I know function over form.
I think the end result is what I have now for the winter. Cee Bailey 22"
Mike Long Island, NY 06 XB12X Black of course |
Lowflyer
| Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 09:57 pm: |
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I didn't mean to put anybody on the defensive. I liken my comment to letting a buddy know that he has a booger in his mustache. Albeit, I do tend to lend a bit of my own humor to those types of things. I haven't been overly impressed by the wind protection of the stock set up, but then I could tell before I ever rode it that I would be in the wind. That said, I like the 'less is more' philosophy for my wind protection. The CB +2.5 has served me extremely well. It moved the air up about 2-3 inches so that it now hits me square in the shoulders. I rode that way through the winter with no electric gear.
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Windrider
| Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 11:50 pm: |
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ElectraGlider, I guess that we could all see by your screen name that you came from a world of wind protection. The HD ElectraGlide has a barn door on the front of it. The Ulysses was designed to be a naked bike. Wind protection is remarkably good for a naked bike in stock form. However, it is still a naked bike. Riding bikes without a big windshield or fairing requires good gear. You need a good quality full face helmet and a riding jacket that fits snugly and doesn't flop around in the wind. With good gear I can roll on the miles in comfort on the Ulysses with the stock screen. I ride the stock screen in the warmer months and the Buell tall screen in the colder months. Personally, I prefer being out in the windstream (Hey, I am WindRider) and I think that the stock screen is just right when the mercury is up but like a little more protection in the cooler months. I think that being in the windstream is just part of the motorcycling experience and feel like something is wrong when I trade bikes with buddys and sit behind a total fairing. Wind is good when on a motorcycle! To each his own. I can say that I would never mount a screen like you did to a Uly and I think that it is a bit out of character with the design of the bike but if you like it great. Ride on. But don't knock the stock screen: it does just what it was designed to do and it is much nicer in the slip stream of this little shield than any other naked bike that I have ridden. WindRider |
Brat
| Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 05:01 am: |
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Sorry windrider naked bikes have a more tucked up sitting position, more a street racer type seat and handle-bar combo, a la lightning, the Uly rider stance is set up like a off-road bike, but can do 100 mph + so the comparison isn't valid! I've got a blown disc in my neck and have ordered a CeeBailey's 16" (tonight) to see if I can get some relief, highway speeds on the Uly are painful for me! |
Pso
| Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 07:34 am: |
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AeHolton are you using the standard shield with the laminar lip? I have used the lip on my two previous bikes and like how they smooth out the air. Paul |
Lowflyer
| Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 12:37 pm: |
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"Sorry windrider naked bikes have a more tucked up sitting position, more a street racer type seat and handle-bar combo, a la lightning, " Wow! That's the first time I have heard that. The Uly is not a naked bike? I thought 'naked' had more to do with a lack of fairings than any reference to riding position. |
Brat
| Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 06:59 pm: |
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I should have said other naked bikes, my inference is that existing naked bikes are more "cafe racer" types, to state that the Uly is a naked bike, therefore should have minimal wind protection is ignoring other obvious differences between it and other "naked bikes". |
Brat
| Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 07:03 pm: |
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PS, beware of spin doctors, the Uly is more "dirt bike" than "naked bike" but neither marketing statement would of got me to buy it, I bought it because i wanted a cruiser that could go bush, to make it better for my use I'm adding a bigger screen, forget the labels! |
Lowflyer
| Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 07:16 pm: |
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I avoid the spin altogether. I reckon the bike is to its rider/owner what it is. To me, the Uly is no more a dirt bike than is my wife's minivan. My Uly is a naked bike with limited dirt road abilities. I regard it as naked simply because it has no fairings. |
Aeholton
| Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 07:53 pm: |
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AeHolton are you using the standard shield with the laminar lip? I have used the lip on my two previous bikes and like how they smooth out the air. Paul, yeah I have the stock screen with laminar lip. Keeps too much air off the chest, shoulders, upper arms and my head stays in good clean air. I regard it as naked simply because it has no fairings. Ditto. |
Pso
| Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 10:18 am: |
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Aeholton: Sounds good-Can you send a picture? Thanks |
Aeholton
| Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 08:36 pm: |
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Yeah. Here is one I posted before:
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Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 11:57 am: |
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My barn door makes riding the ULY on the hiway at any speed a pleasure. There is plenty of breeze hitting me all the time but not of any force. The way it's set up the forceful wind is hitting the top of my helmet. If I stand up on the pegs a little at speed the wind wants to tear my helmet off. Sitting down everything is just the way I like it. Oh yeah, I took the fly screen off the other day and it ruined the whole effect so after a few miles I snapped it back into place. I respect all your opinions and feel that some of us like to have max wind protection and others like less. I only show and tell about what works for me. As for Brat with the disc problem in the neck. I too have a neck problem on long rides and this shield and the ULY's handlebar placement seems to be working for me. The Electraglide handlebar position kills me after awhile. I rode about 100 miles a couple of days ago and normally that would start to bother my neck but it didn't at all. Good luck with yours. |
Aeholton
| Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 12:37 pm: |
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Glad you're happy with the result Electraglider. Enjoyment is the best reason to ride. Ride safe. |
Wademan
| Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 04:42 pm: |
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Aeholton, just to clarify you added the laminar lip and the wind came off your chest and shoulders but still was smooth over the helmet? And is the lip a permanent thing or can it be added and removed as needed? Thanks man. And electraglider, glad you found a good setup for you. I tested a lightning and found the wind blast to be the most I have ever experienced on a bike, strong and over every square inch. Amazing guys do tours on them... |
Aeholton
| Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 04:54 pm: |
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Wademan - it is attached with 3M Dual Lock. It's like velcro on steroids. It can be taken off, but you need to use a screw driver or something wedged between it to separate it. And yes, took pressure off chest and upper arms. Head in nice clean air. (Message edited by aeholton on July 24, 2006) |
Ringo
| Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 06:15 pm: |
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I have the lip on my short shield, and I have a factory tall, the wind blast is almost identical with either set up at any speed. I have ridden each at 120+ and they both stayed solidly mounted. I attached a 2 inch suction cup at the top of my BLACK number plate half way between the upper mounting points so there is not much rearward flex of either shield at speed The wind blast hits my chin bar and the air is clean enough above that, that I can ride with my visor open up to about 80. I also have an Electroglide that I use for cruising, it has a barn door shield, but it doesn’t compare to riding the BUly. |
Rams
| Posted on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 06:54 am: |
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I'm very happy with the stock windshield for any weather. I never owned a motorcycle with one but rode many HD's in the last few years, some trips with 400+miles day and I always took the wind shield off, I have a 3/4 helmet with face shield and it's enough for me |
Ourdee
| Posted on Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 09:54 pm: |
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The XT is the first bike I've owned that has a window on the front of it. The bike I rode into the dealer was a 1980 Honda XL500S. He put me on the XT and said if you head south on that road there is not much traffic. I bought it, had my wife drive me back the next day to pick it up. To me, I say what wind? Never got spoiled, so I rely on gear. But hey, if you need it, use it. Won't catch me making fun of you (for the window). |
Turnero2
| Posted on Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 02:19 pm: |
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I had a problem with very harsh buffeting with a 14 in cee baileys. So I took a little different idea. What I did was removed about 4 or 5 in off of the bottom of the Cee Baileys and then used 1 in spacer's and mounted it to the stock fly screen just like the stock screen thus allowing air to flow between the fly screen and windshield. I like it very much. |