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Kutsuu
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Gals and Guys,
I hope this isn't a repost! I searched and could not find it. I am to find someone else that has put the Buell after market lowering seat on a XB12X, and has seen the same problem I am? Funny thing is it didn’t burn my leg till after the 500 mile break-in tune-up. “But I only had the seat 3 days prior to the tune-up”. If anyone has any suggestions of how to get this fixed I would greatly appreciate it. It gets very hot I can’t ride long after it gets hot, also I can’t hear any exhaust leaks so I am totally lost on this one. I am thinking about using some aero space insulation between the seat and the bike but don’t want to cause the battery or anything else to get damaged?

Thanks again
Ron

Admin,
Sorry for the repeat I'm a noob to this forum and accidentally posted in the wrong thread.
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Sparky
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't mess with insulating the bike; insulate yourself. My solution for the hot air issue has always been to wear the proper riding gear -- an Aerostich Darien or Roadcrafter 2 piece. I never really notice the heat with either of these over my street clothes.

These engines generally spew more heat than normal for about the first 5000 miles give or take a few. Until then try HD Syn3 oil in the engine and trans; and spring for some overpants.

Sparky
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And... Snug fitting jeans will greatly exacerbate the leg heating issue.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Perfect topic selection. Yours is a ride issue, isn't it? : )
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Scbueller
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

jet hot the headers 100 bucks worth it
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Brucelee
Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ditto the Jet Hot. Great stuff.

Ditto the syn oil.
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Kutsuu
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Everyone,
I found the issue and although in this case it isn’t a rider issue. I can see how it could be. I use a nice pair of loose fitting heavy legs. Before I posted this message I was planning a long ride through Death Valley. My trip went well, Wow the heat! At one gas station the other riders and I cut up a sun reflector to fit under the seat. My tank was hot to the touch and you could feel the gas boiling in the tank. I decided to change my oil because the dealer insisted on 20 weight. I put in 40 and the rest of the trip wasn’t half as bad. My tank didn’t get as hot, and the rest of the trip was bearable. When I got back here to San Diego I was given this website to check out from a friend. http://www.specialops-online.com this group is selling heat shields for this problem.

Yep it is Definitely a ride issue 8o)

Also now that I am home I will be going to Syn3 oil thanks for the tip


(Message edited by kutsuu on June 27, 2006)
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Kutsuu
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi everyone well I found out a few things about my bike after my ride.
Got my Ulysses back and its running great! The temp sensor was bad that’s why it was running so damn hot. I guess the bike was running on one cylinder must have been the rear one heh. And the ignition timer oil seal was leaking. I guess that’s why Brad took the oil shower from my bike lol. Anyway glad to be riding again. The bikes not hot at all now and it doesn’t burn my leg. It runs like new.
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Fullpower
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kutsuu: greetings from Alaska. Can you please elaborate on the installation of SAE 20 grade motor oil in your motorcycle? is that possibly a mis-print? thanks for illuminating. dean
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Kutsuu
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello Fullpower,

They put SAE 5w-20 in my bike which is great for an ambient temp of 70F. The ambient temp on this trip was 125+F. Las Vegas Harley ended up putting SAE-40 in and it got me back home. I now have a couple new seals and a new temp sensor and SYN 3. I also put the race kit on my bike and have made a few changes to the seat but it still burns my leg after about 30 minutes of riding. I was fortunate to be able to talk to a Buell rep about it. I guess some Ulysses have a really hot rear cylinder head and header. I bet the 07’s won’t have this issue heh. This is something that is being fixed

Ron
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If they put 5W20, an oil grade I've never heard of, your engine is likely ruined. The oil specified for your engine is 20W50 or there abouts.

Did your cooling fan ever run?

What seals are new?
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Brucelee
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with Blake. I can't conceive of anyone with a brain putting that weight oil in our bikes!!!!!!
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Twistedrose
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the thunderbolt engine has always run hot, even before it was called the thunderbolt. i have also talked to several of the service guys. use a good quality oil, i use syn 3 and dont have a problem. also make sure your bike is getting all the way up to operating temperature before you shut it off. otherwise the cold start (rich) conditions will "stack" and the next time that you start your bike it will run on two or more rich conditions. ... plugs and heat...
all this is coming from the only knowledgeable hd/buell service guy i could find here.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Stack"? That doesn't sound valid to me.
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Kutsuu
Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Tech that told me it was 5w20 is no longer working at my dealer co figure? I am running 20w50 now! 5w20 is a cold weather oil lol and it’s not even on any vehicle recommended lists oh well Buell rocks though this weekend I trucked my bike to Vegas and road it to Indian flats and mount Charleston the ride went as expected my bike ran hotter then hell and burned the inside of my leg I had on heavy loose fitting riding jeans. It stalled 3 times and wouldn’t start once and had 4 hard starts. When I got it home my dealer was like “Lets look at replacing it” before I even mentioned it! They said I definitely have a problem with the bike, and it has to be fixed now because in their words “we can’t have our riders not be able ride the bikes we sell them” pretty cool huh? Anyway if they can they are going to fix it. If not ill end up on a new bike!
“So I'm happy”


That ride was hotter then a freshly ****** fox in a forest fire 8oP
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Desertted
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just go faster!
Seriously though, synthetic oil, jethot coating or heatwrap on the head pipes will make a noticeable difference. It really helped me

hot


(Message edited by DesertTed on August 29, 2006)
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