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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Commercial release of the Diesel Fueled D650-A1LE Bulldog
HAS BEEN DELAYED

To all:

As most of you already know, HDT has had to delay production of the commercial D650 Bulldog due to recently increased orders for our military models.

During the last 6 months, in anticipation of our commercial model release, we have greatly increased production capacity with the completion of our engine and motorcycle assembly lines. Unfortunately, for our commercial customers, the expansion is now needed to fill our ongoing military requirements.

We maintain plans to produce our commercial diesel motorcycle, the D650 Bulldog, and are increasing our production capabilities as fast as we can.

I want to personally extend my thanks to all you who have shown interest in our diesel motorcycles. We will continue to publish updates of our commercial motorcycle release through our newsletter.

Fred Hayes
President
HDTUSA



D650-A1LE Bulldog





Commerical and
race bikes


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Some good news: In the last few months, we've been able to improve performance and overall operability. We've been able to improve power throughout the rpm range and further reduce vibration at cruising speeds. Fuel mileage has also been improved. (See Economy Run in Upcoming Events).

Biodiesel: We've had a number of requests to do more testing using various blends of biodiesel, including B5, B20, and B99/B100. We'll keep you up-to-date on the test results.

Motorcycle Assembly Line: We've started using our new motorcycle assembly line. It will allow us to improve efficiency, increase production rates and retain high quality.

Engine Assembly Line: We are just finishing our new diesel engine assembly line. It is a big step from modifying existing motorcycles to producing our own motorcycle engines. HDT is using innovative production techniques, such as these specially designed engine stands to try and keep costs down and quality high.

R&D Center. We finally moved into our new R&D Center where we're continuing to find more power, smoother operation, better fuel economy and lower emissions. Currently we're testing various blends of biodiesel. Very interesting stuff!!! More on
biodiesel later.

Dynos. We just took delivery of our 3rd Dynomite motorcycle dyno from Land & Sea. (www.land-and-sea.com) This makes our third dyno from Land & Sea. We have the original engine dyno, our eddy current R&D dyno, and the latest unit that will be used for final production testing.


Motorcycle Assembly Line


Engine Assembly Line


R & D Center


New Dyno from Land and Sea


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UPCOMING EVENTS:

Speed Trials by BUB: HDT will be at the Speed Trials by BUB (www.speedtrialsbybub.com) again this year. We hope to better our 8 World and 4 National Land Speed Records and maybe set a couple of new records for diesel motorcycles. If you happen to be in Utah the first week in September, drop by and say hey. I want to thank DUNLOP (www.dunlopmotorcycle.com), MOBIL 1 (www.mobil1.com) and AIRTECH (www.motorcyclebodywork.com) for being an important part of our Land Speed Record attempts again this year.
Economy Run. As part of our production testing, and in conjunction with our entries for the BUB International Speed Trials, HDT is planning on doing one or more economy runs to establish the fuel mileage capability of our engines. To date, our fuel mileage has been taken from Military Tests, using the military engine. Our new economy runs will be using the commercially setup engines. Please stay tuned.



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We are looking toward the future
and the dawn of a new era in motorcycling.

Fred Hayes
President
Hayes Diversified Technologies


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www.dieselmotorcycles.com

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Soloyosh
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was thinking of selling my KTM to get one. Then when the asked $16,000 for them, the KTM didn't look so bad.

Cheers
Brett
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

16K is 6 to much.
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44mag
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Keep us updated ... I would consider a diesel bike simply because it is cool. My diesel RAM was the best truck I ever owned!
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Ikeman
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd consider one. I love my VW Jetta TDI - I get nothing less than 46 mpg no matter how hard I flog it.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Another satisfied TDI owner here. Great engine. Much better than a hybrid.

Hey, has anyone ever seen that 350cc diesel thumper made in India? Local dealer had one a couple years ago; top speed only about 50 but something like 120 mpg! He kick-started it (ouch!) for us and it sat there idling "knock-knock-knock" just like it should.
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99buellx1
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Woah.

0-60 mph in 10+ seconds!
That thing can hardly get out of it's own way!

Cool idea, definately needs some more work though.
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Whodom
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's a home-built variation on the Enfield diesel:

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/06/27/royal-enfield-diesel-conversion/

Here's another new diesel motorcycle manufacturer with a very interesting engine layout (dual counter-rotating crankshafts):
http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/06/19/neander-turbo-diesel-motorcycle/

and

http://www.neander-motors.com/

Then there's this thing that would be pretty amazing if it lives up to the claims:

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2005/02/25/thunder-star-1200-diesel-by-star-tw in/

There's a bunch of diesel motorcycle info here:

http://www.dieselbike.net/

BTW, I wish someone would do a diesel 45 degree V-twin; the idle lope on that thing would be AWESOME! Dr. Greg, you think you could swing a research grant for such a project?

(Message edited by whodom on June 28, 2006)
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dr. Greg,
I own a Prius and how a VW TDI is much better than the Prius is crazy. My Prius gets 50mpg avg and it gives off very few emissions (SULEV). I'll take the Prius any day of the year over a dirty diesel. Isn't diesel more per gal than gas.
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Naustin
Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Modern diesels with catalysts don't pollute much. Sure they pollute more than a prius during actual driving, but still less than a non-catalyst equipped lawn mower. The average gas lawn mower pollutes more than 11 cars over a given amount of time.

Your prius means crap if you still use a gas lawn mower. ;)

Furthermore, the VW doesn't have 800 pounds of toxic batteries. Your prius polluted more in the form of electricity consumption during the mining/refining/production and future disposal/recycling of its battery pack than the VW will burning a lifetime of fuel.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Electraglider,

I don't want to hijack this thread with a (possibly) emotional discussion of diesel v. hybrid. I'm sure we each like our own vehicles (hey, this sounds a lot like what we say to other riders!) so let's just let it rest at that.
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Ntmmd8r
Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

German and Jap Crap....Buy American!
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Chief
Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buy American. Hmm well show me a real American car thats built here with parts manufactured here and I just might do that but I think you choice of cars will be very small.
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Windrider
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have owned 2 KLR650s. Fun bikes. Slow with the gas engine..... painfully slow with this diesel.

So what is there to like about this bike compared to a gas KLR? It costs 3.5X as much and has a lot less power. It goes a long way on a tank but so does the gas KLR.

And how, in the name of mass centralization, did a diesel KLR find its way on to the Buell board?

Erik Buell hates a bike with a full load of fuel let alone over 6 gallons of diesel perched way, way up high off of the ground......

: )

Sorry, saw this thread wandering and couldn't help myself.

Happy Trails,

WindRider
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Clackety-clack;
Don't talk back!
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Whodom
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still think a diesel 45 degree v-twin would be really cool- clack-a-potato-clack-a-potato-clack-a-potato...
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I buy what I invest in. HDI and TM. The next Prius is supposed to get 100 mpg. Now who could pass that up? This may be an incorrect statement but anytime you filler-up you are probably not buying oil extracted from the US. Sure, I'd rather purchase US goods but you couldn't give me a GM vehicle. I swear all Pontiacs and Buicks sound like they have diesel engines after they have a few miles and they certainly look like a diesel from the smoke blowing out the tailpipe. Maybe their business philosophy is to sell cars that crap out in under 100,000 miles so that you are compelled to buy their latest junker. You can say I'm out of my mind but this is first hand experience talking. Hopefully they are getting better, but it sure seems as if they follow the Japs, whether it be quality or hybrid tech or whatever. They better get their collect sh-t together.
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Grimel
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EG - come out of the 70's. Unless you've been rather unlucky GM has been making quality (if ugly and slow) cars for a couple of decades now.

1 GMC 150,000, 1 Buick 130,000, 1 dead Silverado 170,000 (like to smack the bimbo that totaled it), of course I have 237,000 on a 1996 T-Bird.
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My last GM vehicle was an S-10 pickup with 237,000 miles on it. It didn't burn a drop of oil, and gave me no trouble whatsoever. It also gave reasonable gas mileage. Now, if you want to talk about a real POS, let me tell you about the Subaru I owned for a few months...
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tell me you haven't heard the "marbles in the engine" noises coming from every pontiac and buick on the road. When I married in 1989, my wife had a GrandAm and it blew blue smoke at 60,000 miles. It was maintained. Anyway, I'm glad, from your comebacks, that there is hope for GM. Certainly many folks rely on GM for employment. My Prius is the best car we have owned so far. I do wish it was made by a US manufacturer but so far they just don't get it.
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Grimel
Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nope to the marbles in the engine noises. The only problems I have are a wife and boy that can't figure out you aren't supposed to take a Buick Century over the curbs. I can't keep a muffler in one piece between them.

FYI Grand Am == throw away car. It was GM's answer to the Chrysler POS K "car".
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