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Pokinatcha
Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They told me almost $600.00 for 10,000 mile service. Does this sound correct and does anyone know if its all its cracked up to be?
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Sgthigg
Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Get the manual.
There are things that need to be done but mostly its more like a glorified fork oil change.
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Isham
Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh gosh I have 11k, forgot about that.
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Pokinatcha
Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think I can handle that. thanks
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984gasm
Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is the fork oil change the most important thing? I change all my own fluids and am also at the 10k mile time.
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Josh_cox
Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, there is a lot more than changing the fork oil and engine oil...

Flush brake system (if 2 yrs old)
Inspect/replace air filter
tire pressures (you should do this every time you ride though)
Adjust clutch
Adjust primary chain
Lube throttle open/close cables, kickstand
Replace plugs
Check/Set static timing
Reset TPS
Check AFV and make sure it is normal for bikes in your area
And check all major fasteners to make sure its all tight.

There is a BIG difference between bikes that have had proper maintenance and ones that just get the oil changed. There is nothing wrong with doing it yourself, but at least do all of it and keep your bike running right.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

IIRC my local dealer charges $395 for the Buell 10k. I think I'm a bit overdue for the fork oil change myself...
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Livnlo
Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

my dealer charges right around three hundred i paid just under five with new front tire and mounting plus 10k service
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Jlnance
Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just out of curiosity, why would fork oil wear out? Does it just get contaminated?
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Sgthigg
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I Forgot manual and vdsts...besides that as you can see it is a glorified fork oil change.....meaning IF you have the manual you can adjust the clutch,replace plugs,change fluids...etc yourself.


I guess if you cant use a socket, or a screw driver...it would seem like alot more.

By the way for 600.oo you could bt the vdsts and a palm pilot.
set of pit bull stands to do the fork oil change
and have plenty enough left over to take the wife out to dinner with all the money you saved.

Good luck

(Message edited by sgthigg on June 23, 2006)
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fork oil like any oil breaks down over time and heat cycles. It loses the properties
that your suspension was designed to work with.
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Davy_boy
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 07:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That type of dealer service is a rip off IMO , any of that stuff could be done with a manual and a little time . Tools are available for the TPS reset's . I believe if you ride you should have some idea how the bike works and how to maintain it . JM2C
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Nutsosane
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm about to pay $201 for the 10k service. For me not having to pull the forks is worth the cash. I also trust my local Buell tech. NUTS
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Jlnance
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nuts - My dealer wants $500. I'd drive to Richmond for $300. Which dealer do you use?
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Skyguy
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Guys, Not trying to be mean but you all need to figure out how to work on your bike! With the rate dealers are dropping off the list and the price of most things Harley it just makes sense.

I find security in knowing I did everything right. I am not willing to trust my life to someone I don't know.

Pull on your man boots people it's just nuts and bolts.
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Davy_boy
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm with you skyguy , I just called Bergen County Harley for service work cause my bike was not running right and when that dumb ass told me I had to wait a month before I could bring it in and another week to fix it I said screw you and fixed it myself in a half an hour for 7 bucks . (the price for spark plugs)

(Message edited by Davy_boy on June 23, 2006)
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Beachbuell
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes it is. A 10K service is a very important service, especially if your bike is still under warranty. Besides fluids, primary chain tension and all the other normal stuff..... All your fasteners should be checked/inspected, cables, tires, belts, neck/wheel bearings, change fork fluid, TPS reset and just the overall condition of the motorcycle and its componets should be inspected for proper wear.
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Luvthemtorts
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jlnance,
The dealership my good friend Nuts is talking about is Roanoke Valley Harley Davidson/Buell. As the name suggests we are located in Roanoke Va.
As a side note the tech who will be performing the duties is a Buell rider, Badweb member as well as an accomplished and sponsored racer.
Hope this helps
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Vaneo1
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I dont believe in fork oil changes, if the oil isnt seeing any combustion than how could it lose its viscostity? Thats just my opinion, further Ive heard too many stories where the forks leaked oil ever since they let the tech change it...If it isnt broke dont fix it.
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Dauphin
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Skyguy, the problem is when you don't have the security of knowing that you did something right. Sure, any mechanically inclined person with the know-how can perform the service but when you don't fit (either of) that criteria, you're better off letting someone more qualified handle it. I'm well aware of my limitations when it comes to mechanics. I'm more than happy to let a tech handle the service as I'm sure it would take me at least 5x as long to do something as simple as an oil change and spare time is scarce this days.

That said, I may have to pick up 'Motorcycle Mechanics 101' if my future service visits are anything like my 1k visit ($315). I've put on 3k in the past 2 months and all but about 500 of that was from my daily commute. When I actually start taking trips, I'm going to become a regular visitor to the SDHD shop.
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Jlnance
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I find security in knowing I did everything right. I am not willing to trust my life to someone I don't know.

Well, thats why I used to have the dealer do everything. A mechanic should know more about how to service a motorcycle than I do.

And I've learned the hard way that they don't. Actually its probably that they don't care. But it's a sad state of affairs when I end up doing a better job than they do.

Still I'd like to find a dealer that did a better job than me. I don't really want to buy the TPS reset thing, and I'd like someone to look over my shoulder occasionally.
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Jlnance
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As the name suggests we are located in Roanoke Va

Thanks! Thats even better than Richmond. I've been thinking about riding up to Roanoke just for fun anyway. Perhaps now I have a reason.
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Luvthemtorts
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you decide to come up let us know beforehand. We have a few roads you might find entertaining.
Our mini adventures usually last 4-6 hours so plan on spending the night.
Hope to meet ya' one day!
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Buell920
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When it is time to die a, dollar is worthless.

this is form Skyguy's profile. go figure.



nothing personal Skyguy but thats what you said.
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Buelltroll
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm over due for my 10k by about 350 miles.
I have the service manual and can read so I should do it myself I guess.
F*CK THAT, I want to KNOW everything is done RIGHT.
I trust my tech but I will probably bring mine to Terry at Valejo even tho they charge 650$ instead of the 450$ at Auburn.
He definetly knows what hes doing and I want it done right.
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Spike
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FWIW- I didn't have my fork oil changed till around ~15k and the fluid was quite nasty. I watched the tech do most of the work (worked at the dealer then) and it looked to be a real PITA job. The seals had hardened and were very difficult to remove. The tech strongly recommended that I not wait another 15k to change the fluid again.

Fork oil doesn't have any combustion to deal with, but it does get heat cycled and does begin to break down after being pushed through the fork internals countless times. Also, the load on the forks as they move through the stroke wears on the internal bushings and such which contaminates the fluid.

I plan on doing the next fork oil change myself, but I need to break down and buy some of the fork tools first.
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Jlnance
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you decide to come up let us know beforehand.

Thanks, I will.

It's been about 15 years since I've driven up there, but I was driving from Raleigh to Salem a lot in 1990. It was a beautiful drive. Hopefully it still is :-)
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Buellfirebolt31
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If anyone lives near Washington D.C. or near northern VA we do it for 304 plus parts, not trying to sell any non sponsored stuff. i don't know if this counts b/c i don't think sponsors do that. thanks...brad
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 02:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Skyguy,

What about us that do not have access to tools, or a garage?
My garage would call the feds on me for just an oil change. I would love to work on it, but my situation is what it is...

Now if the dealer screws up, and I get hurt (as long as I am not dead) the lawyers take over. Then I can afford a shiny new bike when an oil change it due...
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Vonsliek
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 04:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the one thing to consider - if u don't have the tools or access to same is - after u have purchased requisite tools & supplies, when will u really be ahead of the game??

i tried servicing my own busted fork & damn , if i didn't fack up something .. only minor, but it instantly devalued the aluminum fork .. its not ALL roses, unless u have received some professional instruction.

i have the manual & pick & choose what i do & what i will let THEM do!

something to consider for Joe Everyman.
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