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Jscott
| Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 12:20 pm: |
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Any Buell racing plans going to take place in Utah for this weeks AMA races? |
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Jimidan
| Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 09:16 pm: |
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I hear that the money is gone. jimidan |
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Jscott
| Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 09:29 pm: |
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What about the dealer teams? Trev Deely's? Hals? Cronrath's team? Anonymous? Isn't showing up to the races part of the development cycle? |
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Jima4media
| Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 09:56 pm: |
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I asked this question a while back, and heard nothing but silence. Ditto for Laguna Seca. |
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Jscott
| Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 01:04 pm: |
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AMA's @thewire Live does not have any Buells listed currently for Formula Xtreme practice. Snore! |
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Jmor03
| Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 01:20 pm: |
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FastBuells.com / Millville H-D / Classic H-D (Innovative)'s Hauler is still at the shop in NJ not in Utah. I believe they will be at Laguna Sega! |
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Whodom
| Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 03:06 pm: |
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Man, it's hard for them to get better when they don't even compete. Hopefully we'll see some at Laguna Seca. |
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Anonymous
| Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 10:50 pm: |
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You will. |
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Al_lighton
| Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 11:55 pm: |
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Ebear and I were at the track today, no twins ran in Formula extreme qualifying today, all IL4s. Al |
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Diablobrian
| Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 10:00 am: |
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Laguna and Mid-Ohio rounds are the ones to attend to see McWilliam from what I've heard. |
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Jscott
| Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 10:11 am: |
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Diablo, do you no which MidOhio round? I believe there are 2 stops there this season. |
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Jscott
| Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 12:04 pm: |
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Check out SuperBikePlanet.com for pictures of Miller. Wow what a beautiful venue. |
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Jetbuilder
| Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 12:55 am: |
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Sounds like Buell/HD has just given up on this FX deal! What a shame I was going to go to Daytona next year just to see em run.This sucks Red |
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Jens
| Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 03:38 am: |
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Jetbuilder, you can count to see RR´s racing in Daytona next year. Jens |
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Jimidan
| Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 09:48 am: |
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Jens sez: "Jetbuilder, you can count to see RR´s racing in Daytona next year. Jens" Really? Do you have some insider info that the Anonies on this board do not have? None of them have committed to anything more than this year at Laguna Seca. With the status of the program right now it doesn't sound like anyone can make a prediction like that. The money is gone. I certainly hope there will be a factory effort at Daytona next year, but as everyone knows on here by now...I am but a dreamer. jimidan |
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Anonymous
| Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 08:40 pm: |
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The money isn't exactly gone, there just was never a lot of it. The XBRR is in its own way a big program for Buell, and we counted on dealers picking up on the actual racing program once Daytona was over. We also weren't planning on the problems that happened at Daytona, and we intended to have the bikes in dealers' hands in April originally -- it now looks like June for the vast majority of them. That goes a long way to explaining why there are no RRs at Miller. Expect a turnaround within the month. Racing, like war, is a great example of reality continually slapping you in the face: "No war plan survives the first encounter with the enemy." You adjust, you learn, and you get better. The RR has gotten faster everytime we've had it on a track -- even for a club race. McWilliams had a short list of changes required to put the bike on the podium after Infineon, and every single one of them is being worked on. Daytona '07 is definitely on our minds -- as is Laguna '06. But more importantly, the learning from the program is tremendous. There are things discovered from the RR that will be translated into production, though what they are may not be as obvious as a new engine. There is nothing that accelerates engineering development more than racing or a war. Of the two, I'll take racing. |
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Diablobrian
| Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 09:50 pm: |
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I'm sure Jens, as part of the German team at Daytona probably has a little insight into what that team intends to do next year Hope to see you there again Jens! |
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M1combat
| Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 10:48 pm: |
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"There is nothing that accelerates engineering development more than racing or a war. Of the two, I'll take racing." Effing brilliant quote anonny. |
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Mutation_racer
| Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 10:51 pm: |
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well if we get ours thats liberty h-d-buell ill be riding it for the rest of the season in CCS-ASRA weekends thats if we ever get it! believe me i want it as bad as you guys want to see, it but we all need to understand this type of $hit takes time . hay look at suzuki there still trying to get on the box in MOTO GP and there not given up and why should all of us , ever buddy need to take a chill pill beter yet maybe two! |
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Diablobrian
| Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 10:56 pm: |
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Yeah, all Suzukis are slow and unreliable. Just look at their flagship racing series. lets see, comparing FX to ASRA/CCS is kinda the same as MotoGP to AMA right? (Message edited by diablobrian on June 18, 2006) |
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Mutation_racer
| Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 11:08 pm: |
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i guess |
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Soloyosh
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 09:34 am: |
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So who made the go/no-go decision at Miller? The factory or Trev Deely/Hal's/Warr's? |
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Steve_a
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 10:30 am: |
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"well if we get ours thats liberty h-d-buell ill be riding it for the rest of the season in CCS-ASRA weekends thats if we ever get it!" Expect a pleasant surprise very shortly. |
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M1combat
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 11:51 am: |
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"So who made the go/no-go decision at Miller? The factory or Trev Deely/Hal's/Warr's?" IMO... You're dense. Yeah... I mean "Not exceedingly bright". Think first, then post. |
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Soloyosh
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 12:07 pm: |
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M1combat sez: "IMO... You're dense. Yeah... I mean "Not exceedingly bright". Think first, then post." I sez: Yawn... |
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Jimidan
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 12:21 pm: |
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M1 COMBAT sez: "IMO... You're dense. Yeah... I mean "Not exceedingly bright". Think first, then post." Bueller Than Thou, IMO, your posts are combative and you seem to resort to a lot of personal attacks, which is against the BADWEB rules. Why is this? Can't you tolerate it that folks have different opinions than yours without resorting to personal attacks? Certainly you can communicate on a higher plane than that! jimidan |
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M1combat
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 12:32 pm: |
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Ummm... He wasn't stating an opinion. He asked a question. That's different. The answer has been inferred multiple times in this very thread. /EDIT - OK, it was the motogp/BMW/McWilliams thread/ If he doesn't get it yet... That points to a level denseness or a stubborn mindset. He's already been told that the efforts of the XBRR are privateer efforts with some factory support. He has an answer but either refuses to accept it or can't see it for "some other" reason. Just my opinion... I have no problem at all with differing opinions. I even welcome them as they allow dialogue and expansion of ones own awareness. (Message edited by M1Combat on June 19, 2006) |
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Blake
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 12:39 pm: |
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I used to be dense. But flab is less dense than muscle. So now I ain't so dense. |
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M1combat
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 12:50 pm: |
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Are you saying that Beer makes you smarter Blake? I knew I was sharp for a reason... I didn't used to be . |
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Soloyosh
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 12:52 pm: |
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M1Combat sez: "Blah, Blah..." I sez: Main Entry: rhe·tor·i·cal Pronunciation: ri-'tor-i-k&l, -'tär- Variant(s): also rhe·tor·ic /ri-'tor-ik, -'tär-/ Function: adjective 1 a : of, relating to, or concerned with rhetoric b : employed for rhetorical effect; especially : asked merely for effect with no answer expected <a > 2 a : given to rhetoric : GRANDILOQUENT b : VERBAL - rhe·tor·i·cal·ly /-i-k(& lE/ adverb Dense indeed... Cheers Brett |
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M1combat
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 02:16 pm: |
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I don't really care if you were expecting an answer... Just for the record . |
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Anonymous
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 03:17 pm: |
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Trev Deeley/Hal's/Warr's made the decisions. They all have bikes, and it is up to them to decide which events fit their needs on an investment vs. return basis. It doesn't get any more private than that. |
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Soloyosh
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 03:43 pm: |
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Cool... thanks Anonymous... Cheers Brett |
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M1combat
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 04:09 pm: |
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Hey wait... I thought that was a rhetorical question... |
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Soloyosh
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 04:14 pm: |
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As far as you were concerned... it was... |
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Jimidan
| Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:40 am: |
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M1combat sez: "Think first, then post." Good advice. jimidan |