| Author | Message | ||
     Angelwild327 |
I realize it's difficult to mount real frame sliders in the usual places on our bikes, but has anyone mounted anything similar either where the passenger footpegs are or on the rear axles? My issue is this, I'm very short, and if and when I ever drop my bike when I'm alone, I need something that will allow me a little leverage, for lack of a better term, so I can get the bike up myself. I know how to get it back up, I just find that when it has fallen it falls so flat that I can't manage it alone. | ||
| Brineusaf |
from the rear axles? Why not just look at Dark Horse Moto's Axle Sliders ... I have them, thankfully I cannot give you a review on the items though, as I haven't dropped the bike. | ||
| Firebolteric_ma |
there is a post in the classifieds for a full set of darkhorse sliders for like 50.00. | ||
| Earwig |
Darkhorse also as sliders that go where the passenger footpegs normally go. | ||
| Earwig |
See here: http://www.darkhorsemoto.com/images/pass_slider.JPG | ||
| Navygunner |
I can vouch for the Dark Horse Motos sliders. They do an outstanding job protecting the rear swingarm. I found out in a slow low side the hard way. I would definately recommend them. As far as anything that would stick out so far as to keep the bike from totally laying flat as you say. I would be hesitant on putting anything like that on for fear that it may bend something more expensive (Like the frame or the motor itself). My wife who is 5'1" and 95lbs has picked my bike up all on her own before. Unfortunatly it was not pleasant for her either but I know with determination (And the fear of me seeing my bike on its side for me to pick up) She was able to get it done. | ||
| Midknyte |
Picking Up A Big Bike - by yourself | ||
| Angelwild327 |
I've actually got the rear sliders, I'm talking about long regular frame sliders, like the size of foot pegs. It's not so much for the protection of the bike, but to have something the bike props up a couple inches on. I don't want frame sliders that bolt on to the engine or something like that, because I don't think it's so good for the bike. The larger crash cage would be ideal, but again, the mounting places for those aren't ideal for Buells. Since you can't physically mount frame sliders to a buell frame, i'm looking for alternatives to that. | ||
| Edmbueller |
LSI makes a frame slider for XB's that come off the front motor mount ...googled Buell frame sliders and I found them there... | ||
| Diablobrian |
I'm running frame pucks, front axle sliders, swingarm spool sliders, and solid mount pegs. After 2 tip-overs the only casualties are 1) grip end, and 2)the low beam bezel. My next shop project will be bar end weights with a delrin slider insert. Should be fairly bullet proof then, and damp down any vibration in the handlebars. I just have to get around to making them. | ||
| Angelwild327 |
These are the concept of frame sliders I'm talking about. The only kind of falling I'm talking about is where the bike is stopped, and falls over and I need to pick it up. As I said, i have darkhorsemoto sliders already. Is it feasible to kind of fashion something or just plain mount a regular frame slider on the passenger footpeg brackets? Would that bend the heck out of them from a simple tip-over? the footpeg bracket is certainly easily replaced, but do you think it would bend and damage other things? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BUELL-XB-LONG-FRAME-SLIDERS-KNURLED-ALUMINUM-FRNT -REAR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35568QQihZ002QQitemZ4646922165QQrdZ1QQsspagenam eZWDVW http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.searc h.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3Dslv1-msgr%26p%3Dbuell%2520fram e%2520sliders%26fr2%3Dtab-web&w=500&h=400&imgurl=www.xtsportbikeaccessories.com% 2Fi%2FSato%2520FrameSlide%2Fxb9rframesliderr.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xtsportbi keaccessories.com%2Fcatalog%2Fitem%2F2476485%2F1923595.htm&size=43.7kB&name=xb9r framesliderr.jpg&p=buell+frame+sliders&type=jpeg&no=3&tt=20&ei=UTF-8 | ||
| Angelwild327 |
Diablo I'm looking for two ultimate outcomes: 1. the bike doesn't tip over so far that I can't get any leverage to pick it up 2. my stinkin' brake lever doesn't meet the ground and break off. I was considering bar-end sliders or maybe get the city cross hand guards. Or shorty levers, that's another alternative. | ||
| Chadhargis |
Here's another good link to picking up a bike: http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/pickup.html | ||
| Angelwild327 |
thanks chad..i've studied her technique carefully and practiced, but when the bike is too low, like in the grass..it's immensely more difficult. | ||
| Brineusaf |
Hey angel... someone was just selling some sliders like you are talking about in the classifieds section. I will try to find the post for you... | ||
| Brineusaf |
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/199836.html?1148417345 | ||
| Brineusaf |
MY thinking would lead me to believe however Angel, that if you change the pivot height of the sliders... that it might be possible for the bike to shift it's weight onto the upper half of the bike; this is what I mean: In a normal tip-over the bike would lay with the tires and the handlebars supporting the weight. However, with the pivot position being raised it has the ability to shift the weight. In the re-arranged tip-over, the bike MIGHT have the ability to be supported by the seat and handlebars, or the tail and bars. Just something to consider. Which would you have dragging... Best of luck. | ||
| Brineusaf |
If all you are worried about is the levers... I'd consider bar ends..or the gaurds. | ||
| Angelwild327 |
I've worried about that as well, Brine..I certainly don't want to have the bike upside down, that's why I was wondering about bar-end sliders as well... In the ideal world, this is all for my peace-of-mind factor, as I do not care to have my bike any other way but upright. That's why I love this board...you ask a question or pose an idea and see what opinions or thoughts people respond with. In the end, I'll make an intelligent decision using the info you all help me with.. and I GREATLY appreciate everyone's ideas. THANKS! | ||
| Brineusaf |
No problem, best of luck with your search! Keep it on two-wheels whatever your choice so you don't have to evaluate the purchase! | ||
| Diablobrian |
I understand Angel, I cannot pick up my bike by myself. Imagine trying to pick it up using only one leg! If I tip over I'm dependent upon the kindness of my riding partners, or of strangers. My clutch lever and stock turn signals survived the last 2 tip overs. If I fall over it's always to the left since that's my bad leg. I have heard that the city-x guards also work well at protecting your levers. (right Toni?  ) If you need help or need something custom made for your needs feel free to PM me. I will be happy to help you design what you need to make your bike what you want it to be. I've made all of my own sliders and my own pegs. | ||
| Angelwild327 |
you rock, Diablo..I will brainstorm with my better half and see if we can't come up with some interesting and possibly cool accessories for you to cook up in your labORatory!..when I had my cityx those hand guards saved levers lives...but not always.. I'm glad I'm not the only one who falls, granted..my legs are ok, they're just so damn short.. our bikes are some sturdy machines...thanks ERIK!!! Diablo, I do want to hear your opinion of where to mount them for my needs.. handle bars? axles? passenger foot pegs? I wish I was a physicist and could play out all the scenarios using math and a big blackboard.... | ||
| Diablobrian |
Let's see, the center of gravity is fairly low on the XB. the solid mount pegs have been great for saving my bike's bodywork, but that's still too low of a mount for your purposes. the passenger peg mounts do okay in a slide, but I'd be a little leary of trusting them to hold the full weight of the bike. How strong is the tail section of the lightning? a solid slider there could be a possible location. | ||
| Diablobrian |
Oh yeah, here are my solid mount pegs.  here are my front axle sliders before I tapered the ends down to a rounded cone.  I prefer delrin to aluminum sliders because it is less likely to catch and cause the bike to tumble causing more damage to the bike. If I hadn't had pegs on hand I'd already turned I would have made round pegs and inserted a replaceable delrin slider into the end of the peg. That's my "next generation" since my originals were race pegs and these are to be street pegs. I have at least a small concern about the strength of the rearset plate. However it has not proven to be a problem yet. | ||
| Kurosawa |
I saw a pic of sliders somewhere that were bolted to the frame. I didn't like the concept. As someone mentioned here, there is leverage to consider. I don't like the idea of levers attached to the frame that, under the right (wrong) circumstances might help bend it out of shape. But if someone would come up with sacrificial swingarm and fork pucks like the Buell frame pucks, I'd go for those right away. | ||
| Skully |
I have some of the $10.00 Dennis Kirk bar end sliders on my handlebars and I can tell you from experience, they work. Another trick to help reduce damage to the hand levers is to drill a large hole near the end so that if the lever contacts the ground, only the last inch or so of the lever breaks off leaving you enough to get you home. This can also reduce the chances of the lever damaging the front brake master cylinder. Hope this helps, Keith | ||
| Metalstorm |
There's pics on this board of an XB with a...for lack of a better word...roll cage over the engine. I doubt the bike would lie flat with that thing. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/43/177861.html?1138848690 | ||
| Diablobrian |
That's a powers crash cage. very popular with stunters. | ||
| Angelwild327 |
Skully, I've seen levers that are notched for that purpose..but that's an idea. The crash cages and the way they mount to the engine pose problems to the integrity of the bike...while they may serve their purpose for stunters, for the average biker who is riding long term/distance, I don't think they're sound. It's a long story that my better half explained due to his mechanical background..it makes sense to me, but if I try to explain it I'll just sound like a chick. In it's most basic form... the cage mounts to both the engine and the frame which vibrate/rock/move in different directions, and the long term effects of the opposing vibrations could be detrimental to the bike.. there..I tried... | ||
| Diablobrian |
You did fine. I don't have personal experience with the crash cages so I refrained from commenting on them. | ||
| Metalstorm |
Ditto that. Good job. I see where you're going with that. I wasn't aware that they bolt to the frame and engine. I can see the problems this would create. Thank you for that tidbit of info. These things are good to know  | ||
| Angelwild327 |
anytime Metal..the part that attaches to the frame doesn't actually bolt TO the frame, it squeezes it from the inside and outside of the frame with a thick piece of rubber cushioning against the frame itself. It would be nice to have been born knowing the dynamics and mechanics of bikes..this is all new to me..REALLY new...but I try to do a lot of research and ask questions of those in the know...I greatly appreciate everyone's willingness to share here.. HUGS!!! | ||
| Brineusaf |
..it makes sense to me, but if I try to explain it I'll just sound like a chick. HUGS!!! Right you are! Joking.... | ||
| Frequency |
...I'd be a little leary of trusting them to hold the full weight of the bike. How strong is the tail section of the lightning? a solid slider there could be a possible location. My bike was knocked over parked and the passenger peg protected the bike fairly well but broke the rail under the seat $90 to replace  } |
