| Author | Message | ||
     Jandj_davis |
So, now that we have had the chance to see the results from the shootout, lets hear your comments. I (am going to) own an XB9R, and for me I would have to go with the Micron as my first pick. $800 really isn't all that much money for a full exhaust system, it yields the best peak power numbers, and sounds absolutely sweet. The only thing I won't be proud of owning the XB would be the engine sound. I hate the Harley sound, but I love the bike for every other possible reason you can think of. The Micron makes it sound the least like a HD (except for maybe the stock pipe, man that thing is quiet), which is another reason I like it. My second pick would be the Standard Drummer, which actually outperforms the SS on the 9. It sounds decent, looks great, and doesn't cost much at all. The curves are not as nice looking as on the Micron, but for a slip-on using the stock headers, it is quite the performer. | ||
| Freezerburn |
Just a question Al. Were all pipes, including the stock one tested with the open air box kit? Thank you so much for all of your hard work. | ||
| 99buellx1 |
Another thing to take note of. To get the best performance and life out of your bike, it is strongly recommended to have a custom mapped ECM with use of the Micron system. The race ECM does ok, but the bike really comes alive with the Direct Link. | ||
| Dongalonga |
thats why i am glad i went with the jardine way back...turns out to be the best bang for the buck in my opinion. | ||
| 71sportster |
I like, and am running the D & D. Yes, it's loud, but I love the midrange increases. | ||
| Rmp |
A big thanks goes out from me to everyone involved in this shootout. It's great to see determined, comitted people coming together for a common goal. It make things much easier for the potential consumer to see what benefits he/she can obtain from each manufacterer. It also tells them what kind of family they have joined by owning a Buell. No where else can you find this type of head-to-head data. With all the good pipes out there, you really can't go wrong. It is also easy to look at the data and justify why the one we may own is better than the rest. (i.e. Mine has incredible sound and peel you off performance at any time during the ride.) I know I didn't buy my Buell or muffler with high horsepower expectations. A peak number at 6800 rpms means nothing to me. But, if I really want to get down the road, I just climb on the 'Busa.  | ||
| Bake |
I am not complaning but I would have liked to see db levels, or did I miss it? I am still trading my Jardine for a Buell race pipe despite the results, the Jardine is just too loud and the popping is irritating. | ||
| 99buellx1 |
You missed it, they are in there. | ||
| Tankhead |
I can't download the data...... how did kevin's product fare? Specifically the original drummer on the xb9. Was the test done stock ecm with his slip on or with the race ecm and kn filter and his slip on original can? tanks for answering these specific questions. I do appreciate your time. | ||
| 99buellx1 |
Each pipe was tested with stock ECM, Race ECM and with an optimized map via Direct Link. Each run was made with an American Sport Bike open air-box kit and K&N filter. (except the baseline, those were all stock) | ||
| Al_lighton |
Craig, Correct me if I'm wrong...you had already installed the open airbox kits when we're gotten there. We put the stock inner airbox and outer airbox on, but the breathers were still routed out of the airbox in the "Stock" condition, weren't they? Al | ||
| 99buellx1 |
Correct. The airbox was stock, but with the breathers routed to the Norris Performance Catch Can. | ||
| 99buellx1 |
Picture missing from the results (unless I missed it)  | ||
| Tunes |
I just read the entire test report. Lots work testing, wrenching, recording, operating, and typing. A big Thank You to everyone involved in this project. I had to wait the requisite X number of hours (dialup) to download the .zip file, but it was worth it!!! Excellent report!! Useful information, which is rare these days when it comes to statistical data analysis. Hmmm... I have a stock XB12 muffler that could use a diet plan. | ||
| Americanmadexb |
im really suprised on how well the stock exhaust faired!! Little low on some torque curves but it held its own very well!!!! | ||
| Al_lighton |
Craig, Thank you, that picture should be in the report and I'll add it in the rev B release. Three things I know need to change: 1) add page numbers 2) fix system weight on Jardine AL 3) Add picture above, explain stock airbox config better. If anyone notices any other errors, please PM me. Thanks, Al | ||
| 99buellx1 |
I should have washed my bike prior to taking that picture. Yuck, makes such a beautiful piece of craftmanship and degrades it. | ||
| Diablobrian |
Mike Norris does make some nice parts. While he is not a board sponsor, you can get the catch can and other parts from American Sport Bike, and from kdfab.com. Al and Kevin can take care of you! Also watch for the new front pulley/sprocket cover! |
