| Author | Message | ||
     Steve_larson |
First, we hope everyone understands and appreciates just HOW MUCH work your friends put into the results which you have now. The file shows you a TON of information, but if you consider the quantities of data that were drilled through to get here, you have to be in awe. A gigantic thanks to everyone involved. Since the whole point of the test was to show "which" products do "what", "where", we thought that to get the conversation rolling we would outline our reasoning and thoughts as to why our pipe performs as it does. Every designer has a reason for what they do, each one correct in their own way, and that is what the data is all about. How does a design fit in with what "you" are trying to achieve? Here is what we were thinking... As a racing company, we design for maximum performance. But we think we need to define what "performance" meant when were designing the exhaust for the XB series. The key to going fast is to have all the components working together. And we do not just mean the engine (the component we work with), we mean the engine, suspension, frame, brakes, tires, etc., etc., etc. The key to going fast is to balance everything, so that the rider has each area of performance working in harmony with every other aspect. When achieved, he/she should be going much faster! It is why Superbikes cost so much. It is not that anybody out there cannot build a 230+ HP motor, it is that you then have to create a bike around that motor that can actually do something useful with the HP. That is what I am trying to relay here, "balance" in all aspects is the key to going fast. So, our design criteria was to create the biggest, tallest and most LINEAR HP curve that a given motor can produce. Sure, we could and can make changes to the design and boost one area over another, but at what cost, and for what purpose? This is not meant to any competitor in the test, it is about our thinking. If we wanted to give up HP in the midrange to create a larger rush of peak HP, then in real world riding (and most regular racing) every time you come off a corner the bike will not only be "weak", but the "abnormal" change in power as the HP rises and falls dramatically with rpm's is too sudden for the frame, suspension, tires and everything else to adjust instantly to. End result? You go slower as you try and manage the powercurve instead of riding the bike. What we are trying to say here is that we purposefully designed the curve as you see it, because it is what will give the bike and rider the most "performance" in our opinion. It is also why we designed a full system, as we believe this balance could only be achieved with the primaries and collector/muffler working together, in harmony. So in the end, what we have tried to produce is the "finest" curve, a curve that enhances the area's of torque that accentuate most completely the rpm's that the rider is looking for. Does not make it "right or wrong", but we thought we would open up the discussion with insight into how we arrived at the curve that we did. We would love any comments, as the design we have created was for your bikes, and if you have input as to how we can make it better, that is what we want to hear! Steve Larson Micron Exhaust 1-888-963-1212 | ||
| Jandj_davis |
Steve - From the looks of things, the Micron is a success from the criteria you listed. Beautiful dyno curves, great sound, unique look, and all for the cost of some slip-ons. My only suggestion would be to try to cut down on the weight. Other than the stock muffler/header setup, the Micron was the heaviest, and the problem was with the fact that the header weighs more than twice what the stock header weighs. The muffler itself was on-target with the other competitors. Does the header have to be made of so many pieces? Some weight could be saved by getting rid of all of those clamps. | ||
| Steve_larson |
Honestly, we considered many of these factors, but we also remember another company that offered a full system and had major issues with breakage. We wanted to make sure that was NOT an issue at all with the Micron, and being a Sportster motor, we had to "err" to the overkill side. Secondly, we felt that keeping the chin spoiler was important, and the brackets and resultant thickness of material (again, fear of breakage factor) for the attachment of these added weight. Not to mention that we do not rivet anything here, the muffler is designed for probably more years then any of you would ever consider owning the bike. Probably overkill, but it was a choice that we made. We are aware that we did not go after the "weight" issue as we do with some other machines (our GSXR pipes are around 8 lbs complete!), but we did feel that 99% of Buell riders are looking for quality, longevity and a neat and clean install, as compared to a few less pounds. Steve Larson | ||
| Jandj_davis |
Ahh, I guess I didn't consider the possibility of breakage. I agree, probably overkill, but thanks for providing such a quality product. | ||
| Pcmodeler |
yeah...how many of us have had the rivets pop on our Jardines? I've also had to replace the original bracket used to mount the chin spoiler as well. | ||
| Xb9 |
Thanks Steve for making such a fine system for our XB's. I've got a Micron on my highly Nallinized big bore XB9 racebike, and I am amazed at how well everything worked out as far as power delivery. This bike has gob's of power everywhere, no flat spots, and it feels like you were shot out of a cannon when you come off the turns. Kudos!  | ||
| Olinxb12r |
That is a great looking system Steve! It did seem that the header was the weak spot in the other full system that has been made for the Buells, but I would have full conifence in the Micron. Hopefully the next time my Jardine pulls apart I'll have the extra money to upgrade to the Micron! | ||
| Daves |
I'm running a Micron! | ||
| Oilrigpilot |
I installed the micron myself. With the service manual, it was cake. Along with the help of our friend Al from American Sport Bike. I am glad I own the Micron! Great sound and boy, did it open it up!!! Thnks to all at Micron | ||
| Bigeasy |
Micron here also. Had the whole thing jet coated black and mapped by Al. LOVE IT! nice job!! | ||
| Isham |
this is cool to have someone speak on behalf of micro in a web forum. That speaks volumes, thank you. | ||
| Nastynate4469 |
Just curious but on your website it doesn't list any exhausts for the XB9R or the 12R. Is this because they both fir the same on either the R or the S or not? | ||
| 99buellx1 |
They fit both, and are the same for the 9 and 12. | ||
| Nastynate4469 |
Thanks! | ||
| Steve_larson |
You guys are fast, took a phone call and you beat me to the answer!  Let us know if you have any other questions, happy to assist you. Steve Larson | ||
| Chadhargis |
I rode Daves' bike with the Micron system. I was impressed with it. Good smooth power and not as loud as I anticipated. Didn't seem bad at all and I was riding without earplugs. | ||
| Steve_larson |
BTW- Would it be possible to send us some photo's of the black jet coat system, we will post them for others to consider because it sounds interesting. Steve Larson | ||
| Sakuc |
Is there any chance of hell to get the Serpent system with E stamps for the countries where cops yank your reg. plates for having too loud system without E marking. | ||
| Steve_larson |
No pity from anybody over here... I have had the chance to ride many times in Europe, so please consider that you have the South of France all the way over to the Czech Republic for riding, great beer and even greater women, so there has to be some suffering in your lives!  (Sorry, had to say that!) Seriously, we are the North American distribution, you need to ask this question of Micron UK, they can be found at www.Micronexhausts.com. In the meantime, we American's in our worldly youth (gets us in trouble sometimes!) will continue to enjoy the vast expanses and our less then quiet exhausts until somebody stops us!!!!  Steve Larson (Message edited by steve_larson on June 07, 2006) | ||
| Sleez |
any chance you make one for tubers??? | ||
| Xbjelly9s |
  here's mine. | ||
| Steve_larson |
I have to say I like the look! Very "AMG", really works with the bike... Thanks! Steve Larson | ||
| Bigeasy |
xbjelly beat me to it! thanx | ||
| Pupu |
those bends look " squished ", i dont mean to rag on the pipe. but does it flow better that way? i had thought that if is was the same all the way through it was better, i know the pipe performs, just a curious question | ||
| Steve_larson |
Actually, round tubes are one of the most inefficient methods for moving a fluid around a corner. So not squished, the bends you are looking at are the most highly engineered designs in the world based on fluid flow dynamics. Take a look here: http://news.micronexhaust.com/newproducts.php/108 It is about the Suzuki GSXR, but the engineering is the same and should help give you a basic understanding of what we are doing here. Let me know if you have any questions, happy to assist you. Steve Larson | ||
| Indy_bueller |
Steve, I knew you hit a home run with that pipe the moment I saw it. I've never regretted my purchase. Awsome system, great support. Thanks for throwing in such a quality offering. | ||
| Pupu |
thanx steve, i knew you guys knew what you were doing, just didnt make sense to me  | ||
| Medic_2512 |
Micron Rules! | ||
| 99buellx1 |
That Micron may look kinda wierd, but damn if it dosn't work great and sound just as great! | ||
| Kuuud |
any chance you make one for tubers??? Inquiring minds want know. Bret |
