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Oz666
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is there any reason to use the H-D "Breakout Box Adaptors" when doing the Blast! TPS adjustment? In other words can the voltage at the sensor be read accurately if the Auto Enrichener is not connected? I was planing to "jump" the connection on pins 4 and 5 and measure the voltage between pins 3 and 5. Or did I miss something?

Oz

I didn't find any reference to this in the knowledge vault, and if answered, it should probably be moved there...
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Jprovo
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OZ, I'll have to look at a wiring schematic, but the TPS and the Auto enrichener get their power from different sources... I'll see what I can find.
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Oz666
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanx for the quick response, I've got a friend who is closing in fast on her 1k service. She (and I) have no confidence in the local shop. I have the manual and all OTHER necessary tools but this is my first Blast! service. I can skip the TPS if necessary ( `till later) but I'd rather not. The bike ( `05) starts OK and runs well currently.

Oz
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Jprovo
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You don't have to adjust or check the TPS. At least, it's not in the regular maintenance for an 2002, I've never done it in 41,000+ Miles.

I don't see a real reason for the breakout box, buut I really don't know what it does. Pin 5 is ground, and pins 3 and 4 are joined together. I'd just pull pin 3 and measure what the voltage is between it and ground to set the TPS, but I may be oversimplyfying it...


I'd probably leave it alone if the bike is running fine though.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dont mess with the TPS! Anybody that I've read who has, has wound up with problems. Its merely an on/off switch for the timing advance curve. There is probably an easy way to test/fix it if it goes bad.
Rule of thumb on maintenance: If it aint broke dont fix it!

Sadly though you're right not to put much faith the dealer. We'll help however we can.
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Naustin
Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Speaking of dealers, I had my tires changed last week and I noticed yesterday that my pulley bolts all have tool marks all over them. They were obviously removed, but not replaced...

That means that the last time I had my tire changed at the same place, the tech I though I could trust, lied to me. He told me they didn't have to remove the pulley after I followed up and specifically told them about the one-time use only bolts.

So, my one-time use only pulley bolts have been removed and reused twice now - BY THE DEALER.
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Oz666
Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, lack of trust. I service my own, and several other Buells. I am not saying that I am better than the dealers, only that I have a larger personal "investment". (If my wheels fall off, it's my own dam fault.)
Jprovo - sorry, somehow I turned the primary chain, check and adjust @ 1K and every 2.5K thereafter - see dealer into TPS.....
What does that "see dealer" mean anyway? Is the dealer servicing your Blast! expected to check him(her)self out in a mirror?
I guess I am spooked by how necessary it seems to be to stay on top of proper TPS settings on the XB's. No problem, just a general lube and change of, give everything a good once - twice - OK, I check everything three times, remind me to tell you about changing my own stator under warranty after stopping at Chez Crusty, I DID NOT check everything three times...
Thanks to everyone, this board is an irreplaceable resource for myself and my other Buell owners.



Oz
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Jmynes
Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What does that "see dealer" mean anyway? Is the dealer servicing your Blast! expected to check him(her)self out in a mirror?}

It means it's time for the tech to see his dealer.

Hopefully he puts the crack pipe down long enough to finish your bike.

Me, I wrench my own, and this board is a great resource!
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Oz666
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim,
Ah, those malicious truths are always the funniest!
Now for the rest of the story...
How the %$#^$#&^ does one "Remove mounting bolts located behind footpeg support bracket."?
Do I need an offset ratcheting box wrench, crowsfoot, torch?
And imagine my surprise to see TWO oil drain hoses and plugs! It's is nice that they included a spooge drain, though.
Took another look at the service manual, I guess I am going to be doing that a lot.



Oz
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Naustin
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

a wobble, universal, and several extensions help alot in removing those bolts. : ) The best solution is rear-sets so you don't have to screw with them anymore. ;)
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Jerzydevil
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I unbolted my peg support on my blast, I unbolted the top shock bolt and supported the bike w/ jackstands. It'll give you a straighter shot at the nuts.
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Oz666
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Naustin,
The owner isn't up for rearsets, at least not yet. All I brought with me was deep sockets, wobble & straight extensions, ft/lb & in/lb torque wrenches, combo wrenches, Allens and a T-27, silly me.
Jerzy,
Does 1/2" rebar go through the rear axle, or is there a better way?



Oz
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Jerzydevil
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dunno, I kinda leaned it over on the kickstand and put the jackstand under the pass. peg on the right side. I kinda think I read on here somewhere that the hole thru the axel is smaller than 1/2 in tho.
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Jprovo
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's real tough to get with a deep socket. One of those wobble sockets, where the socket is built into the wobble is the best. I usually remove the battery, pull out the trans beather hose , and as much wire as I can... I usually begin cussing when I remember that I have to put it back on... This is definitely one area that Buell could have improved.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

By wobble socket he means a socket with the universal built in.
7/16 rod goes through axle.
I usually cover the battery with a rag and use a 2 foot 3/8's drive extension and universal socket. Replace the nuts with coupler nuts (and Loctite) and you may have an easier time of it next service.
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Oz666
Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got universal metric socket to 15mm but I think my SAE set only goes to 1/2".
24"x3/8" extension, check.
Yep, Set, Socket, Universal, Shallow, 12-Point (6 pcs.) (1/4" to 9/16")Stock #: 106TMUA - 1/4" drive, though. Hey, that's why I bought the snap-on ones, if they break - I get a new one.
I will look in the "scary" corner of the garage for some 7/16" all-thread.

Thanx, to all and I have the feeling I will be using Jprovo's technique - the cussing part!



Oz
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Naustin
Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It isn't that bad really. I didn't undo the shock or jack up the bike when I did mine, I only removed the battery. I used a universal, a 6in extension and a 3 in extension and I didn't have any trouble.
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