| Author | Message | ||
     Xb12s_streetdemon |
i just bought the air filter cover and catch can from asb. i havent ridden it yet, but i was just thinking. if the tubes are coming from the valve covers to vent, and you put a catch can on, wont that prevent the gas from venting because it can't breath and build up pressure? anyone know? | ||
| Firebolteric_ma |
the hoses connect at "T" fitting that goes to a breather. that way the heads can breath. you don't want to block them from breathing. BAD things will happen. | ||
| Xb12s_streetdemon |
i put them in to the "T" and then ran it down to a catch can that mounts on the oil cooler bracket. no filter | ||
| Sgthigg |
XB12 you are right.. ..however the catch can should alow the pressure vent out of a tube or some type of breather. It is just positioned to where it vents and not alow the splooge from the engine escape..thus catching it. | ||
| Firebolteric_ma |
i believe the two tubes off the heads go into a "t" then into a single tube. then down stream there is another "t" which vents the tube, one goes to the can other to small filter so there is no "back pressure." i could be wrong as i don't have one yet, but i believe thats how they work. unless the can has a vent of some sort. | ||
| Diablobrian |
yes, the vents t together and go into the back of the can. the top connection is for a vent hose to a filter to let the gasses escape. It should probably come with a diagram. I thought Al sold it as a complete kit, with everything needed to install it, or did you order it as just the can? | ||
| Wardog3187 |
I have just mounted a catch can from American Sport Bike on my 9R and I'll post a pic on here later on. | ||
| Xb12s_streetdemon |
i got the billit one. it mounts to the oil cooler bracket. it comes with a hose fitting on the top and a closable drain fitting on the bottom. it also comes with a second hose fitting in the bag and no instructions. | ||
| Xb12s_streetdemon |
if that is the case.then i need more hose cause i ran it in to the top with the drain fitting on the bottom. i have not run the bike yet. so there shouldn't be any oil in it. | ||
| Jackbequick |
Test the breather setup by gently sucking or blowing on it. There should be no apparent restriction at all in it. Here is my take on a simple and cheap method for catching the oil: http://users.adelphia.net/~jackerbes//Buell/breather.html I worked on my bike recently and accidentally pinched my vent tube shut with a too tight cable tie where it passes down along the frame tube near the foot peg. I for went for a 180 miles ride at highway speeds and on return noticed I was venting oil out of the vent tube that exits under the tail light housing. There was a fair amount of it on the tire cover, swing arm, and up under the rear fairing. When I looked for the problem, I noticed that catch filter seemed too dry and found the plugged up vent line. I cut the cable tie and put a looser one on and that solved the problem. So know I know that a plugged up breather vent can cause oil loss through the transmission breather vent. Jack | ||
| Firebolteric_ma |
if you go on to kevins website (drummer) check out the catch can he has. there is a set of directions that can be read on his site. this may help clear up your problem | ||
| Wardog3187 |
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| Norrisperformance |
The can was designed for the top fitting to be used as the vent and should be connected to a filter mounted or placed some where above the can. This will prevent the chance of oil coming out the filter. Under the airbox is a good place. Engine vents should be Tee'd together and connected to the fitting in the back of the can. Mike | ||
| Norrisperformance |
Connecting the hoses backwards could cause the filter to leak oil. The vent on the can needs to be higher than the oil inlet, this way the oil goes to the bottom of the can. | ||
| M1combat |
Just an FYI... There's no room for the breather under the airbox. That said... That's where I had it up until last weekend. What was happening is that as I put the lower airbox plate on it would push the filter into my throttle cables. It caused some driveability issues just off idle. It wasn't the fault of the can by any means... it was caused by my routing of the tubes and the placement of the filter. I re-routed the breather tube (post catch can) to look a lot like the pics above (except my filter sits just behind the oil cooler) and the problem disappeared. Sorry I didn't get back to you with that Mike... I should have. The way that one is routed will certainly cause some discharge onto the primary cover over time. /EDIT - I have the tubes swapped from how those pics are... My breather lines come into the rear fitting on the can. My filtered line comes out the top, makes a loopheaded downwards and then curls back upwards just under the can. It then pokes through the oil cooler mounting bracket and the filter sits just behind and above the oil cooler when looking at the bike from the side. (Message edited by M1Combat on May 11, 2006) | ||
| M1combat |
Mike - Did you ever get my e-mail so you could send those pics to me? | ||
| Norrisperformance |
Here's a picture of where my filter is. There's many ways you can skin a cat. M1 I'll send ya a picture. Thanks  | ||
| Norrisperformance |
M1 here's a link to the pictures. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/193544.html?1146800584 | ||
| M1combat |
There you go... That seems like it would work. The filter I got is probably a 1/4" larger than that one so it wouldn't fit there. I have the breathers routed the same though. | ||
| Sgthigg |
Where do you guys find these tiny filters at? | ||
| M1combat |
I think Al at American Sport Bike sells them? I got mine at Napa. It's not a K&N. It's lighter though  . | ||
| Wardog3187 |
Hmmmm... well I'm off to go re-route my breather line.  Sgthigg - K&N filters | ||
| Madsx |
I did mine backwards too. Whoops... Well, its gonna rain for the next month around here so thats gives me somethin to do. | ||
| Spike |
Is the filter included in the catch can kit from KD fab? I don't see it in the picture on kdfab.com. Mike- How's the progress on the new belt guard? | ||
| Madsx |
The filter from KD Fab is a smaller cone shaped stonelike filter. | ||
| Diablobrian |
I have one of the prototype belt guard, and I really like it!  As I understand it the production model will not have the "pockets" milled all the way through. Just in case some of you guys ride in boots or shoes with laces. You should be able to get the guard/cover in billet, or anodized black from kdfab.com soon, if not now. (my sprocket was orange just to see if I liked it, It's black again now) | ||
| Xb12s_streetdemon |
i am such a hammer. my catch can didnt come with any diagram so i never bothered to flip it over to see the other fitting on the back. i just thought it was on top and bottom. now it all makes sense.sorry to have bothered you all and thanks for the help. im going to see if autozone has those filters today. | ||
| Firebolteric_ma |
glad we got you on the correct path. i think i need to order one now. they DO LOOK GOOD!  | ||
| Jpxb9 |
I put mine behind the left rider heel guard  | ||
| Dmextreme |
Hey wardog.. is that ur bike? Those Chrome rims?? If so.. those are freakin sweet! did you do it yourself? how much? Jerry W Des Moines, IA | ||
| Wardog3187 |
The previous owner had it done and I  how much it will cost to have it done. For the past few weeks I have been working on it to get it ready for riding. I will be posting some pics later on. | ||
| Xb12s_streetdemon |
autozone has the breather filters in diferent colors. they are like $10. but they have a hose end so you need a coupler or you can do like im going to do and just put it right on the top vent output. | ||
| Ezrider |
Has anybody had a problem with oil mist coming out of there breather after installing a catch can and filter? I seem to get a little mist out of mine. I have a XB12 with about 1200 miles, catch can with filter mounted below can, I notice it more around 3500 rpm and up on longer rides. | ||
| Madsx |
I did but I had it hooked up backwards. I had the inlet and breather hoses going in and out of the can swapped like in the picture above. I'm switching them now. I wont be able to see if it makes a difference cuz the constant non stop downpours that I dont think are ever going to stop! Anyway, if Mr. Norris says thats how its supposed to be, thats how its supposed to be. | ||
| Diablobrian |
The filter should be mounted as high as you can mount it. |
