| Author | Message | ||
     Buellfirebolt31 |
For what exhaust do you need to buy the remapping key for? I just received an e-mail about having to buy one if you purchase the Micron Serpent exhaust? I was wondering if you had to with Drummer or Jardine even? Thanks, this changes my mind now.....Bradley | ||
| Diablobrian |
The micron flows a lot of volume and can cause a serious lean condition if you don't re-map for it. The Drummer and Jardine work fine with the race ECM, but can be even better with re-mapping. You might be able to get away with the race ECM and the micron, but it will still be running lean. Is it worth the risk? It's kind of a personal opinion thing. | ||
| Buellfirebolt31 |
Too much fuel is lean, right? Would gapping of the plugs fix it? I know you can foul plugs if too much fuel is shit right? Thanks, Bradley | ||
| Firebolteric_ma |
to much fuel = rich conditions to little fuel = lean condition | ||
| Buellfirebolt31 |
The key is like $250 from American Sport Bike right? Is this key a one time use thing or can it be used more then once? Do you have to have software that it goes with? If I were to buy it, then buy another pipe would i be able to tune to either pipe at any time? Thanks for all your guy's help, I just wanna get something good and worth it, Bradley | ||
| Buellfirebolt31 |
What would be the risk DiabloBrian?? Thanks again, Bradley | ||
| Oldog |
bolt too much fuel is rich, too little is lean plugs gap have nothning to do with it heat range is determined by nose length and is of little concequence relitave to the fuel air mixture make sure that the muffler bearings are tight | ||
| Diablobrian |
Running lean you risk burning your rings, holing pistons, basically blowing your motor. There are people that make mods and don't make any fuel changes. That's a game of chance I can't afford. And that's not even considering the risk of bodily injury. The key becomes locked in to a specific ECM. After that, that ECM can be re-programmed as many times as you want, or can afford (dyno time isn't cheap) | ||
| Diablobrian |
Gapping plugs will not correct a fuel problem. | ||
| Buellfirebolt31 |
I can get free dyno time  I work at the shop!!! But do you have to have certain software to put on the computer? Thanks, Bradley | ||
| 007firebolt |
You can get the software and load it on any windows operating system; IE no macs or palm. Yes you must purchase Direct Link or know someone who has it. Upon your first ECM read the key will be locked to that ECM, so make sure it's the one you're going to keep on the bike. The software and key are $350 from american sportbike or the key is $249. As far as maps available you should talk to AL first, they are having an exhaust tuning/ mapping session blow out real soon and the results will be posted. The micron setup is real nice, but like brian said it really leans your bike out and requires some fuel management changes. I am still tweaking my bike  | ||
| Buellfirebolt31 |
My last question then. With a Jardine Carbon Fiber slip-on, Race ECM, K&N Filter, and Open Airbox Kit for an XB12R, will the bike run lean? Thanks, Bradley | ||
| Diablobrian |
BF31, It should be fine. However if you are trying to get the most out of your set-up you will benefit from having a custom map made for your bike. I'm running an open airbox, Jardine, and K&N on my 1250 right now. Here is a link to a dyno run with a fuel:air plot. As you can see there is room for improvement. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=3842&post=562691#POST 562691 | ||
| 007firebolt |
Most likely you'll still be a bit on the lean side. It's really hard to say until the gear is on the bike. I ran a similar setup for a bit and my bike ran ok, but I had lean surges throughout the powerband. So what I am saying is use caution and evaluate your bike after some ride time. | ||
| Buellfirebolt31 |
If it only runs lean SOMETIMES, do you have to get the remapping key??? Thanks Again, Bradley | ||
| 007firebolt |
Ahhh...no you don't have to do anything if you choose. The only reason you would get the key is if you were planning to have your ECM re-mapped by AL or Terry. Like I said before, ride your bike a bit and see what it does. If you feel like it's too lean then re-map it. If you feel that you might be damaging your motor then you know what the choice is. Hope this clarifies things. | ||
| Diablobrian |
only running lean sometimes is kind of like only driving drunk sometimes. It will lead to trouble sooner or later. Until recently there really wasn't anything better than the race ECM available to the average Buell rider. The TFI and PC3 were band-aids that actually didn't do the job very well. People spent months, or even years fiddling with them. In the end most people removed them because they caused as many problems as they solved. There are a huge number of threads on these sagas. The racer only ECMs were/are a good option for those that can get them, but I suspect D-L will make them obsolete as well if the user interface is better than the DOS interface of the racer only ECM. Direct link style programming has been the holy grail for XB tuners since the bikes hit the street. While it is possible to cut corners sometimes, if you want your bike to run right all of the time it is your best, and only option, along with some time on the dyno to dial it in. |
