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Fasted
Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

bought a bike with rear disc removed. owner swears brake will work if reassembled. i reassembled and am having trouble generating any pressure. if i inject fluid into bleeder under pressure, it fills rEservoir. however, i can't build any pressure to bleed. loosening banjo bolt passes mostly air when pedal is pressed . MASTER CYLINDER?
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It can take a lot of lever pumping to get the pads to engage the disc prior to there being any significant pressure build-up. Other than that, it would seem likely that the master cylinder may need some cleaning. If the plunger/piston gets gummed up, it won't return and will behave as you describe.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The master cylinder could have become gummed up due to old fluid, moisture, or mixed DOT 4 and DOT 5 fluids. In most cases, you should be able to disassemble, clean it and have it working again. : )
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Road_thing
Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Everything Blake said. If I were doing it, I'd strip the master cylinder and the caliper and clean them thoroughly with mineral spirits. Flush the line, too. Blow everything dry, then reassemble, filling with clean, fresh brake fluid as you go.

Make extra sure that the sealing washers on the banjo bolts are really sealing. It's easy to have a tiny leak there that will make it absolutely impossible to bleed the system until the pedal is firm.

It's a pain in the butt, but eventually you'll get it.

rt
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I second cleaning the entire system. : )

And yeah, until you can get your lever to firm up, you just won't be satisfied.
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Jayvee
Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want to know about the disc, I'm wanting to replace my disc, for example to a Wave or something. Just for looks, what I have works fine.

Do I really need to pull the bearings, as the manual say? Can I just pull the wheel, and unbolt the disc and bolt the new one back one?

I know it's red-loctited, I was thinking of applying the micro-torch to each bolt, to break the red stuff loose.
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Captainkirk
Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nix on the micro-torch. A heat gun works just as well with less collateral damage.
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