| Author | Message | |||
     Robino |
anyone got them? | |||
| Skully |
Hi Danny - Here is a photo of my LSL damper. I road race occasionally with the CMRA and their rules require one. I like the way it is tucked in and semi-protected. I purchased it from American Sport Bike.  Keith | |||
| Dago |
I'd post a pic. But it looks just like Keith's. | |||
| Gentleman_jon |
 This is the Storz, which seems to be the main alternative to the LSL. The unit works well, and is easy to install, but it looks kind of funny, especially on a Lightning, and is very exposed in case of a fall. It might be possible to mount it facing backward, but without any support from Storz, I haven't be able to figure out how do it - yet. Bottom line: Get the other one  PS. I think Hyperpro makes one for the Firebolt, but I don't know if it will work on the Lightning. (Message edited by gentleman_jon on March 03, 2006) | |||
| Robino |
scott doesn't offer one for the top tripple? | |||
| Gentleman_jon |
No, Scott does not. The reason is that there is no simple place to mount it without doing some serious engineering, which Scott has not done. | |||
| Bcordb3 |
Skullly is your dampener attached to the front motor mount? If so, can you still use a pit bull front wheel jack? | |||
| Snackbar64 |
What does a that contraption(Steering Damper)do for the bike? | |||
| Gentleman_jon |
Normally, a steering damper isn't required at legal speeds, especially on a properly set up Buell. However, for racing, they are generally required by the sanctioning body. What they do is act as a shock absorber for the steering, to prevent unstable conditions from causing wobbles, and "tank slappers" under certain conditions. Typically, cornering hard over bumps can cause the front fork to oscillate and these oscillations can build causing a loss of control. This can also happen in tight "S" turns when throwing the bike violently from one side to another. A steering damper should NOT be used to "cure" other steering problems that cause unstable conditions when riding in a straight line such as bent rims, out of balance wheels, damaged tires, improper suspension set up,etc. | |||
| Skully |
Bill - The LSL comes with its own front motor mount bolt that is tapped underneath to allow the damper to be mounted. It does not interfere with the Pit Bull front wheel stand that plugs into the lower triple tree. Keith | |||
| Buelltroll |
Not MINE but still cool  | |||
| Blazinc5 |
Now that would be the damper I would put on if I had my choice Buelltroll... however,, looks like they had to do some serious machining on that top triple clamp to get it to work... Not that I couldn't do it beeing a machinist... just that I don't like the idea of cutting up origional parts. Oh well,, there is always Ebay. | |||
| Gentleman_jon |
In addition to the need to make a new upper triple clamp, the other item of concern with the Scott installation presented by Buelltroll is the part that connects the moving arm of the damper to the body of the motorcycle. In this case it is a rather clever fitting that goes through the airbox cover. While this is a very inventive solution, some members have questioned its strength. While it is not the ideal shape for this load, and certainly is not as strong as the typical steering damper fitting, the loads involved are normally not very great, otherwise the handlebars won't turn at all. However these loads do rise quickly when the damper is doing its most valuable work. It would be interesting to get a long term report on this installation if possible. | |||
| Dr_honda |
Hummmm… Since they went threw all the trouble of making a new top triple-clamp… I don’t know why they wouldn’t just slot it, and go down to the front fairing mount. That control mount to the airbox cover looks weak. It will probably hold up for street driving (where the damper isn’t doing anything anyway) but if it was stressed in a racing environment… it would fatigue and snap. Either way… it looks good, and some one went threw a bunch of work to make it happen. | |||
| Hogs |
Buelltroll, That looks good, I remember years ago when I had some old PanHead Harleys they had a Top steering Damper that must have been like a friction clutch or something ...Not sure how they were made from the factory But they were so easy to use, Seems to me they were like a metal shaped spring and while turning the knob tight it wd. just make that metal spring compressed against a plate or something making the steering tight A top knob all one had to do was to twist the knob when driving easy as 1 2 3 and they really worked great ,Wonder why someone couldn`t make one like them for the top tree,... I know I wd. have one on all the family buells here... For some reason I never like the ones below or the other common ones you see, The other ones WORKED and so easy to use..Come on guys Make these up... The price they want for the other types are way too much $$$ for me,Don`t understand why they are like 350.00 to 400.00 bucks for a little shock and one or two brackets... ,But guess if they were designed like the old ones I wd. buy em... (Message edited by hogs on March 05, 2006) | |||
| What_the |
The RR set up will be sold through racing support, via your dealer. Check pricing and availability in April. It bolts right up to the stock fork uppers and fairing support bracket on a Firebolt. Excuse the fuzzy pic.
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| Robino |
buell troll where'd you get that pic? you know the guy that owns that bike? | |||
| Skully |
Michael - That's nice! Keith | |||
| Xxxb9s |
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| Gentleman_jon |
Molto Bello! Vorrei vedere una photo presa di piu vicina. Mi piacerebe fare lo stesso. | |||
| Xxxb9s |
Hi Jon, nice to read my language once in a while here @ badweb  I need to shot some other pics (I'll upload them ASAP) meanwhile I got another one p.s. the damper is a "Daytona", I had just to find a clamp to fix it to the frame, near the right airscoop. The daytona damper has 6 positions, from soft to hard, I usually ride it on position 2 (more than enough)  | |||
| Xxxb9s |
here you go! I need to replace that rusted nut with a inox, but I'm too lazy. the bike is also so dirty, waiting for the rain to stop before cleaning   (Message edited by xxxb9s on March 07, 2006) | |||
| Xxxb9s |
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| Xxxb9s |
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| Dago |
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| Xxxb9s |
NOT YETTTT!!! MAYBE LATER P.S. DO-NOT-PHOTOSHOP-MY-BUELL-PLEEEZ!  | |||
| Gentleman_jon |
Thanks 9s, That gives me some good ideas. My bike is a bit of a mess now too. When ever it is warm enough to wash it, I take it for a ride instead. | |||
| Gentleman_jon |
Thanks to our Italian friend, I got busy on remounting my Storz " backwards".  The way I did it was to order their smaller damper clamp, SDC-037 which I installed horizontally in a frame mount of my own design and manufacture. This brought the damper closer to the motorcycle than the stock mount. Then I put the fork clamp under the triple, instead of above it. It isn't perfectly aligned yet, but it works fine. Advantages are it doesn't look quite so funny, and the adjustment knob is not right out where anyone but the rider can adjust it. Now the rider can easily adjust it while riding. I use a little piece of red tape on the adjustment knob to show that adjustment hasn't been changed. I use about 4 clicks of damping, three in the winter. Don't try this at home unless you are prepared to spend a little time to get it set up just so: a binding steering damper is a good way to get into an accident. If there is any interest, I can post more details. I am still fiddling around with it, there are lots of different ways to skin this particular cat. | |||
| Olinxb12r |
Does that hit your leg Jon? Just from looking at it I think it would. On my R model that is just about where my knees are. | |||
| Gentleman_jon |
Thanks for bringing that up James. I had forgotten to cover that point. Hate it when I do that:-) Actually, it ends about 4 or 5 inches in front of my leg when the steering is centered and I am seated on the bike. When the steering is turned hard to the right, and the rod is in its most rearward position, it pivots outward, so one can easily walk the bike around tight spaces without hitting it with one's leg. Of course the LSL set up is still preferable, in my opinion. | |||
| Xxxb9s |
"Thanks to our Italian friend" no probl John, anytime! nice job, I like it better this way by the way it doesn't bother my knee, actually I got used of it and I didn't notice it anymore... but when it happen to see it, I find it just...TOOOCOOOL (and useful) | |||
| Gentleman_jon |
 I don't want to beat this thread to death - there probably aren't very many Storz owners out there. Anyway, I revised my mounting one last time, lowering the rear frame mount that I had fabricated by simply turning it upside down.  Now the damper fits a little better, and looks right. I really need to have a front fork mount that locates the front of the damper a bit further from the fork leg like Xxxb9s has, but I really think I am going to stop fooling with this thing, because it works well enough, even though it ain't perfect. It is sort of a shame that Storz didn't take the trouble to do this right the first time out: it would not have cost them any more to do it properly. Oh well. |
