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Buellgler
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

particularly irritated at the moment; given the fact that I just got done 'pimping my ride' as evidenced by a previous post, at a cost of around $1500....Now my shock (oe showa) is leaking, two rocker box gasket leaks, and fuel is leaking out of my head vent element set-up and getting all over the intake manifold.

Questions:
is there an easy fix for the shock? Is Harley still goodwilling the retrofit? if not, which shock should I get & where do I get it?

do you have to drop the motor to do the rocker box gaskets? other solutions?

My set-up for the venting bit that went along with my forcewinder install was banjo bolts connected to each other with a tube, then a 2nd tub that is about 12inches and wraps about (above the forward head) and is then ziptied with the end straight up and a little element on top. From what I can tell the fluid is leaking from the element as all the other bits are clean. It's then running down the hose and getting on the intake and stuff. Did I put in too much oil? other possibilities? Would going to a catch-can set up eliminate this?

thanks in advance, and if I wasn't clear on something let me know 'cause I'm going to try and get some pictures posted if that'll help...
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Buellbozo
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Leo,
Take a deep breath and know that all this is easily rectified.

My bike is a 99 S3T. The shock recall bulletin is in the Knowlege Vault. Court just helped me find out that mine isnt covered. Yours may be.

The rocker box gskt upgrade is an easy first time project. No, you dont have to drop the engine. I got my gskts from DaveS and my guidance from the BadWeb. No problems, no leaks. Factory Service Manual REQUIRED.

Catch cans Rock!! You'll be thoroughly disgusted by what comes out. Your engine will appreciate not swallowin' it. I have a set of pix that Slaughter sent me of his set-up. I've copied his.
Many options, cheap to billet. I can't shrink the pix, but PM me your e=mail and I'll send them to you.


(Message edited by buellbozo on February 26, 2006)
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Ricky
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://204.232.5.159/Rocker.htm
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Bluzm2
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ricky is right.
The best way is to replaced the rocker box covers with XB models.
Otherwise, check the KV and use the new style metal gaskets.
NEVER use the old style paper ones. They suck and WILL leak again.

Do the RB mod in the KV, easy to do, only takes a few extra minutes and helps reduce spooge.

Brad
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Bluelightning
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As for your shock, it can easily be fixed. Go to the Race Tech website and find a repair center. they can fix your leaking problem, put a better spring to fit you and the way you ride and, heck while your at it, have them put in a gold valve!

website is: http://www.racetech.com/cdsearch.asp?showPage=

Good luck
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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Even if you do the XB rocker cover conversion (about $105 complete with gaskets and PCV valves), you'll still need to route the breather lines to a proper catch-can. You can route the spooge to the ground, but why take a chance of slipping on your own spooge? I made my own catch-can for less than $7 and it works as well as any commercially available.

You don't have to drop the engine to do the rocker box gaskets, you just need to cut down an Allen wrench (the size escapes me at the moment) to clear the frame rail for one fastener. I think you'll be surprised how easy it is to work around the frame in that area, you can easily get a socket on almost all the fasteners.

I had an updated Showa goodwilled (with an extra $100 bullshit "administrative fee"!) on my 2000 M2, but that was in 2001.
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Buellgler
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks all...I've calmed down a bit. Going to go with the new gaskets, catch-can, and new suspension all-around! Figured I might as well upgrade the fork springs and add some valving in addition to the new rear shock I'm now shopping for.
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Buellgler
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Update:
ordered gold valve, springs, oil, seals, crush washers, and some other bits; will be rebuilding the fork Saturday...I have lots of experience w/ mx & mtn. bike suspension so it'll be very comparable work.

did rockerbox gaskets last night...was a snap.

re-routing breathers to catch can Saturday also, will post pics w/ my set-up for your viewing pleasure. My plan is keep things very close to how it is now, that is: rear vent is routed over forcewinder via banjo bolt and tube to forward vent (dual outlet banjo type bolt unit), which is then routed underneath intake manifold and between the heads to the catch can mounted on the little metal bit that used to hold the horn. should look pretty clean...
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Buellbozo
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Bomber
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

buellgler -- good job -- wrt catch can -- careful while routing th ehouses, and tyr to keep them heading downhill throughout their entire run -- the downside of having them run uphill is that they can, over time, get filled with spooge, and form a block of spooge, if you will, that will eventually get blown through the lines, making more of a mess than you care for
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Buellgler
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bomber,
the line does run downhill, then slightly uphill (perhaps a total ascent of an inch from the lowest point in the tube), the total drop is about 2 inches from the forward head vent (rear vent is routed over forcewinder intake elbow to the forward vent, then the forward vent dumps into the line under the elbow, underneath the intake manifold and between the heads). If the spooge were to settle it would be between the heads at the low point. I figured that the heat would keep things liquified, and the pressure would be sufficient to force it through to the catch can. No, it's not ideal, but I haven't yet spent a lot of time on the matter. Thoughts?
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Buellgler
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

'nuther question:

I'll be fine w/o a vent pressure regulator right?
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