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Cmm213
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I dont know what happened but I got some blistering and a crack by the front head. Maybe I didnt clean it well enough/ Any Ideas, I put two coats on and let dry for about 50 minutes then started it. Its the plastikote silver high temp stuff 1500Fheader pic
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Firemanjim
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The question arises--why would you paint stainless steel? A little elbow grease and Mothers polish and they shine like chrome.
That being said,if there was any sort of oil/grease/dirt/etc. the paint will do that.Sticks even better if you bake it in oven.Of course,for the best adhesion,the pipes need to be bead blasted.
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Cmm213
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I didnt ask to be flamed on my own post!I asked for advise. Do what you want on your own bike, but headers on my 9 look two toned after a whole day of riding. I ride the hell out of my bike so they dont stay clean long, I'd rather be riding that buffing my exhaust everyday. Plus I would have baked it but the whole reason I didnt is because I painted them on the bike. If I took them off I would have ceramic coated them.
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Brupska
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did you heat cycle the paint. Warm it up for a few minutes and then let the headers cool down to room temp. Do that several times to bake on the paint. I had to do that with my headers on my old cage. They where aluminacoat headers and still had to do it. Good luck. I am just going to polish mine with mothers.
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Doughnut
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Brupska
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When the paint starts to smoke a little then let them cool down. Sorry I forgot to add that detail.
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Cygnus_x1
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What coating is the gold stock headers?
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Dana P.
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Its not a coating thats what stainless does on its own after heat cycles
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Brupska
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They are stainless steel. That is just how they look from the factory. Do a search on header polish, I think. There will be pics of some nice headers done only with Mothers metal polishing with instructions. Sorry about this misguided post.
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Cygnus_x1
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well why is that after scratching them on rocks, and riding it around for a month they havent changed?
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Only 50 minutes drying time seems short. Might want to let it sit overnight.

Did the rear header do okay up near the cylinder head?
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And please recognize that no one "flamed" you. Jim simply asked a polite honest question deserving of a polite honest answer. Capice?
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Typeone
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What coating is the gold stock headers?

Its not a coating thats what stainless does on its own after heat cycles


the '06 headers definitely look different though, like there is a coating on there. is this not the case? way more gold looking than my '05 looks. (btw, i dont like the look of the new headers, look like pantyhose to me. hahaa. i like 'em raw.)

as a sidenote, my '05 headers seem to want to tarnish so fast. maybe its all the rain riding i did last season? they look like total sh*t right now. like rusty. gotta get some of that polish.
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Tommy_k
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Typeone,
My 06 header I painted was definitely gold colored stock...had a rough finish too. Not smooth like the older ones.
TK
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Flamed by a fireman. Oh, the irony!

I'm glad I didn't answer first, because I was going to say the same thing Jim said.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh, and btw. I've never, ever, been able to keep any kind of paint on header pipes, no matter how well I prepped them. The last time I tried was the mid-80's, though. Maybe spraypaint technology has made quantum leaps since then.
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ceramic coat
or
Header wrap
or
just keep 'em clean

just my 2¢
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

stainless (more properly stain resistant) steel is very tough to get paint to cling to -- looks like there was some amount of foreign material on the header where the bubbling occured (even a fingerprint will be enough), or perhaps the paint was a bit thincker there and wasn't quite dry
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Cmm213
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake the only reason I did not want to wait overnight is that it said it needs to be baked before 8 hours time? I dont know why, but the rear header did fine. I guess it just was not clean enough.I'm SORRY Jim about the reply I just hate when someone asks me why I did what I did as if I'm stupid or something. I know I can keep them clean but I have limited ride time already so thats the last thing I want to do all the time. If I can get a pic down to size I will post one, I think you guys will like the results.header pic
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Ryker77
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

heat gun
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Nasty73z
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To me it looks like the '06 headers are bead blasted or something to make then more smoother/duller. They look different in all the press photos that I have seen, instead of the rough, scratchy appearance of the previous years.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 02:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Too bad you are not closer as I have both a bead blaster and a nice buffer so you could go either way.I usually take my S-2 pipes off and give them the buffer treatment once a year,and other than that a littler Mothers once in a while.They shine up very nicely.
And I was perhaps a bit snippy,must be getting grumpier in my old age--just had another of those b-day things,ya know.
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