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M1combat
| | Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 01:17 pm: | 
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Well... I haven't heard a tuber Drummer so I can't comment on it. I'm sure the performance will be there, but I have no idea how it'll sound. |
Interex2050
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 12:35 pm: |
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Well the sound of the drummer on a older Buell shouldn't sound much different from the XBs, the engines are pretty much the same.
One thing that I did forget to mention in the comparison...
The Ducati doesn't ping nor does it care about which brand of fuel is used. The XB on the other hand will only run on certain brands of fuel, and even then tends to ping under hard acceleration. Of course in both cases I'm referring to the highest octane available. |
Medic_2512
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 01:11 pm: |
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I love the monster line, the new SR2 1000cc with
single sided swingarm, 6 speed trans, and twin high mount pipes is listed at less than $10,000 and the same version with the 800cc motor is $8500. Both of these are incredible bikes and are cheaper than the Buells.
The dealer by me has the new SR4 with the 996 motor and Ohlins suspension onsale for $11,500. I`m going to the dealer now to have a look. Anyone interested in an 04 XB12R that might be for sale? |
Reducati
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 02:19 pm: |
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save your Pennys for the $700 valve adjustments every 6k on a 4valve duc |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 02:33 pm: |
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save your Pennys for the $700 valve adjustment every 6k on a 4valve duc
...................by doing it yourself.
Rocket |
Skyguy
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 02:37 pm: |
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I would have bought the Duc except for the fact I ride 20,000 to 30,000 miles a year and I prefer to spend my time and money on tires not tune-ups. |
Brucen
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 02:39 pm: |
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Valve adjustments every 6000 miles is one of the enduring Ducati myths. The valves need to be checked at 6000 mile intervals, but after the engine breaks in they rarely need adjustment. Service on the 4-valve bikes like the S4 costs more, but my two valve only needed a couple of shims the whole time I had it.
The thing to watch out for in the S4 is the plating on the rocker arms. For several years the chrome on the face of the rocker arms of the 4-valve engines would flake off, requiring new rockers, and if it was bad enough, new cams. I don't know if this has been fixed on the newer S4 engines. You might want to check on the Ducati lists. |
Interex2050
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 05:49 pm: |
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$11,500 for the S4Rs is simply wow...
Sounds somewhat tempting |
Lous_v2
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 07:38 pm: |
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Its actually $14,995 for the S4Rs....Which isn't really a bad price for the performance you get. |
Medic_2512
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 07:59 pm: |
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Didn`t make it to the dealer in time, so i`ll have to wait until tuesday.
I`ve had several Ducati`s in the past including a 996 and maint isn`t as bad as people think, especially with the free maint for two years on the new bikes.
Even belt changes and shim adjustments are not black magic, like everyone thinks. They can be do easily at home. With my 996 when ever i changed the oil and filter i always checked the valves too usually around 5000 miles and it doesn`t take long. After 30,000 miles only 2 shims were ever changed. Their touring model has 4 valve engine also and has gone over 50,000 miles without an adjustment. |
Blake
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 09:07 pm: |
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Both [SR2 1000cc and 800cc version] of these are incredible bikes and are cheaper than the Buells.
You've ridden the new Ducatis? Is the S2R1000 really priced lower than an XB9S? |
Medic_2512
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 10:19 pm: |
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No i haven`t ridden the 06 SR2 yet. I was hoping to next week.
Only the SR2 with the 800cc motor is less than the XB9, but just by a few dollars. I think the list was $8499. The SR2 with the 1000cc motor is $9999. I`ll get all the details on tueday. |
Ryker77
| | Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 09:33 am: |
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doesn't the duc's require more maintenance? and part are more expensive and harder to find?
If and thats a big IF--- If I had to ride a different bike other than my Buell it would be a BMW r1200st with ohlin shocks. I had a r1100sa with ohlin shocks (over a grand) and that was the smoothest ride ever. |
Fullpower
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 07:52 pm: |
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that is true, you WILL find Ducati parts do cost more than similar Buell parts. the 'more maintenance' part is a debatable/arguable point. the Ducati has need of drive chain cleaning and lubrication, where as the equivalent Buell activity is to just wait for the belt to BREAK.
the Ducati needs to have the timing belts inspected at 6000 miles, and REPLACED every 2 years, without regard to mileage. Also, the Ducati will need its valve lash CHECKED each 6000 miles, and MAY or may not need an adjustment at this interval. The Buell does not have an equivalent valve train maintenance requirement, instead we have other brand specific quirks to deal with, example being TPS value resets, wheel bearing exchanges, idler bearing changes,primary chain adjusments, fork seals, front rotor warpage. Not complaining here, not bashing anyones toys, just pointing out that calling a Ducati "high-maintenance" is uhhhhh, well its all relative. |
Fullpower
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 07:55 pm: |
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S4R with 2400 miles @ honda shop in Anchorage for $6000 LOOKED real nice, still had the bugs on it, hasnt been washed in 2 years. probably needs a battery and oil change by now. if were a 2 valve i would have bought it on the spot. going to take me some time to get used to the idea of radiators on a street bike. |
Fullpower
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 07:58 pm: |
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Medic, if you are interested in that S4R (its red) i will give you the shops phone, they are hot to sell. |
Whodom
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 07:59 pm: |
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I thought pretty seriously about a Ducati a few years ago, and found some info on aftermarket valve retainers that are supposed to greatly extend the required valve adjustment intervals. IIRC, recommended valve adjustment interval went from 6000 miles to 18000 miles. I believe they were referenced in a magazine test (maybe a long-term test in Cycle World?) and a set for a 2-valve Duc was around $150. I would definitely invest in them if I owned a Ducati.
There is at least one site on the net with detailed, step-by-step instructions for desmo valve adjustment, complete with photos. |
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