| Author | Message | ||
     Boatwrenchv8 |
Hello all, I just purchased the pro series intake. Do I have to rejet once it is installed? I am currently using the stock exhaust. (Santa will have a Vance and Hines for me under the tree. After I install that, I know it will have to be rejetted) Thanks, Rich | ||
| Bobbyhead |
Did you also buy a couple dozen carb intake boots ? *LOL* You'll find out soon enough about what I'm talking about. And yes you should rejet now, as the much freer breathing intake will lean out mixture, even without an exhaust change. Bobby | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Welcome Rich! I wouldnt panic about the rejet,its not critical, however you'll have your exhaust soon enough and the jets will cost you under $10 for the pair and installation is easy. | ||
| Boatwrenchv8 |
It does look like I will have to engineer some sort of carburator brace so it doesn't shake itself off. Just incase, I will pick up a spare carb fernco. *lol* | ||
| Ezblast |
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/20164/6812.html?1129600295 See here for bracing ideas and intake ideas - read the archives as well - they are informative! GT - JBOTDS! EZ  | ||
| Jprovo |
Boat You might want to try it unbraced in the beginning, just don't overtighten the clamps. There are a few of us that have had good luck running the Pro-Series intake unbraced. James | ||
| Ezblast |
list more than 5? GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
I think the PS intake is like the WB exhaust-Not all fail, but all are prone to do so. I'm not sure I could name more than 5, but mine has about 2000 street miles and 250 race miles unbraced! | ||
| Ezblast |
When is the last time you checked the boot? GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
We have about 2000 miles on our carb boot (unbraced) so far without a problem. I experimented and wrapped a layer of duct tape around the whole thing before I assembled it. Of course I generally carry a spare as well, but so far it's holding. When I get my arse (that's British for A$$) off the couch, I hope to explore fabricating a brace. However, until then just keeping a new boot with me is cheap insurance and an easy fix. | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
I go over the bike after every race weekend! Not saying it wont eventually get a brace, just havent done it yet. (Message edited by gearheaderiko on December 04, 2005) | ||
| Jprovo |
list more than 5? Why? I don't even know if I can list 10 people that run the Pro-Series intake (not some homebuilt special). I wonder how many of these things that Buell has sold, and how many caused intake boot failure.... anyways, I think that I know exactly 5 people that have not had a problem with an unbraced pro-series: Erik, Saro & Loli, Myself, and Johnny Lunchbox... Personally, I'd just try it without the brace first, it worked for me  James | ||
| Tim |
I have had no problems with my unbraced pro series intake. Have an extra boot hanging on the wall but havn't needed it in the last two seasons. | ||
| Jerzydevil |
Same here except the 2 seasons part. Been since spring. Thats 7. (Message edited by jerzydevil on December 04, 2005) | ||
| Naustin |
Wow. I was under the impression that 90% of them ended up failing if they weren't braced - and even then bracing was somewhat ineffective. Seems more like 20% now... Maybe it merely depends on whether or not you tend to apply pressure to it with the inside of your leg? And, maybe the bracing is, in some circumstances, contributing to the problem? (Message edited by naustin on December 05, 2005) | ||
| Ezblast |
Funny - but I can list a lot of other folks who have had problems and so can you James, and most anybody who has been on this board for a while - I tried using that intake with no springs for almost a year and 8000 miles - I ended up changing boots on an average of about 800 miles - then I added springs - that brought it up to 1500 average, ditching the pod filter and going with the stack filter has been trouble free. Please also check to make sure the intake filter cover is not rubbing on any hoses - lol - GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Sarodude |
Honestly, no bracing is better than a poorly designed brace. My first attempt at bracing the pro series intake resulted in buut failure within a couple of hundred miles. I looked at my brace & realized that, given the "uniplanar" nature of engine vibes, my brace was probably causing "multiplanar" vibes with the carb. Took it off and never had a problem since. If your legs sit against the intake that may cause you some grief. Other than that, do not overtorque! -Saro | ||
| Jprovo |
That was the point- I can't name 10 people that run the Pro-Series... Braced or unbraced. I've destroyed more exhaust systems on the Blast than intake boots I'd simply suggest, try a new boot with the Pro series intake install. If the boot fails, replace it. If it fails within a few hundred miles, I'd think about cooking up a carb brace or putting the stock intake back on.... Ive got 37,500+ miles on my bike, been running the Pro-Series intake for 20,000+ and I've replace the intake boot a total of two times. Once when I installed the Pro-Series intake, and once about 10,000 miles ago. I guess that I'm just Lucky James | ||
| Boatwrenchv8 |
Hello all, Sunday I put the pro series intake on at lunch time at work. I fabricated a brace between the carb and the crank case. Should work but will keep an eye on it. Will post a picture as soon as I can. Monday UPS shows up at work with my vance and hines exhaust. Decided to put that on now, and to wrap up the empty box for the tree. Lunch time comes, the plow comes off and the v&h goes on. Looks good, sounds better. Bought bike about 1 month ago from dealer (formerly a rider's edge bike, 2002 with 1300 miles, it now has 2550 miles on it). Bike has some issues I have been unable to deal with because of time. Dealer said to bring it in and they would take care of it. Decided not to do jetting myself, will get dealer to do it (and pay for it). Want to make sure it is 100%. Tuesday morning (my day off), to the dealer I go. Issues are: 1) Oil pressure switch - no good 2) Oil leaks from crank case halves and rocker box (appears to have metal gasket, not paper) clutch feels different everytime I ride 3) Engine sounds like it is pinging at high rpm while accelerating in 5th, and while accelerating hard in 3rd or 4th. 4) Ignition module wires chafed / broken - (I did a temporary repair. Broken wires were for enrichment and TPS.) 5) Rejet / tune carburator to compensate for the new intake and exhaust system. I know I will be paying for #5 and while they are at it they can check #3. The rest should be warranty. I will let you know how everything has worked out, but will be without bike until Friday. Don't you think that for $100, Buell could include some sort of support bracket for the carb? Or at the least suggest how to properly support / brace the carburator? Rich | ||
| Ezblast |
LOL - welcome to the world of aftermarket parts - including the origional vendor! The crankcase brace won't work - unless you added a big chunk of soft rubber somewhere to absorb the crankcase vibrations which are different from the top end vibrations - lol - still think springs are the best and others who have tried them tend to agree - still looking for a good long term, though the Ram Flo intake does look promising - very light weight, bolts directly to the carb and reports to have no knee interference. GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Boatwrenchv8 |
Had no way to get to auto part store for springs, so used what I had on hand. At least now I have till Friday or so to figure out a better solution. Rich | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
In a perfect world, it doesnt need a brace and can be run successfully without it. In the real world you may or may not need a brace and that will depend on a few factors. Most aftermarket HD (twin) air cleaners will say "do not run without the carb supported" but many do. The PS intake perhaps being a 'race only' part, may not have been designed for day to day riding or their testing (as Saro may have implied) led to the conclusion that braced can be just as bad as unbraced. The springs seem to be the safest solution. | ||
| Swampy |
EZ, whats the Ram Flow Intake? I have yet to see one. Your not talking about the custom pointy thing? | ||
| Jprovo |
EZ, are you talking about these?? http://www.ramflo.5u.com/ IMHO, You're better off with a K&N pod filter. I've hod those on little british cars and thay're not that great. James | ||
| Ezblast |
Yeah - they have both a 600 series and a 450 series that bolts onto our carb - Laura G has been running one (I think the 450) on hers with some turbo hose replacing the intake coupler and springs - so far so good. GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Ezblast |
 Not a bad look at all and got to be better than the stock set up - springs are still used to brace. Her SO runs a Turbo shop for cars - lol GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
EZ - do you have any pics of your springs? Also for the record our first carb boot failed at about 1500 miles. New one has 2000 miles and still going. I think it has a lot to with overtightening the hose clamps and being conscious about not hitting it with your knee or leg. | ||
| Ezblast |
  You can see the spring comming off the one side where the secondary pump housing is - the loop going over the top here and attaching to the head's last fin. The spring on the other side attaches to the head on the other side and the hard part of the vacuum line(pluged in 49 states) from the carb. The springs used are the set you would buy for a car carb - with a loop on one end and flat on the other. Only a slight tension is held on the springs. GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
EZ - Ok I kind of have an idea what you did there. I'm guessing you could pick them up in any auto parts store right? AAAACCCCKKKKKK ...snow tomorrow and it's not even winter. | ||
| Ezblast |
Yes - they usually come in a set of two - Kraegen, Napa, Auto Zone - all sell them. GT - JBOTDS! EZ |
