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Ryker77
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got my rocker box covers off for painting and some possible head work. I noticed that there are places for 2 umbrella valves per head. But I only see one umbrella valve installed?

should there be two per side?
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Dave
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One per rocker cover. Check out http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/34217.html#POST183773 A simple mod that helps alleviate oil mist.

Maybe do a search on the BadWeb Knowledge Vault for "Chamfer rocker"

DAve
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Ryker77
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave thanks a bunch.
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Xldevil
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't want to come across as a wiseacre, but it is a very VERY bad idea,to do any service or repair without knowledge,IMO.
What about a service manual?
Will you look at the bottom of your teapot to know ,i.e.,the right torque?
Ignore that you could ruin your bike,you can injure yourself or other people.
So,don't be so stupid!
You can not guess,how to work on your bike.
Regards,Ralph
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Dave
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll strongly disagree .... those of us that have mechanical aptitude have potential to do as good job or better than any dealership we could take these bikes to. A service manual is needed. I can't count the amount of money and headaches I've saved from doing it myself. I'd rather chance screwing things up than pay someone else to screw it up for me. (I'm not saying all dealerships have shoddy technicians)

With that said, some folks have no business with a screwdriver.

DAve
When warranty expires, I personally know the idiot working on my bikes.
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Xldevil
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Think you've got my totally wrong.
I only wanted to say,that there is no way to go without a manual or some other based on facts information.
Regards,Ralph
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Rocketman
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd agree Ralph, but I couldn't count the number of times I've had to 'write' my own manual.

Before my warranty expired, I personally knew the idiot working on my Buell. I'm safe now thanks to me and Mr Snap-On.

Rocket
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Ryker77
Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Devil,, if only the manual had all the details in a easy to read format. But it doesn't so I ask a simple question..

Plus last time I went to a HD dealership I was told that the buell frame doesn't require balanced rims! even though the manuals calls for balancing
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Ryker77
Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

for example when removing the heads. the manuals says to pull the head through the upper frame. The manual neglected to mention that you have to pull both heads then remove the heads from the "REAR" upper part of the frame.

You see the manuals most of the time isn't written with the first time do-it-yourself guy.
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Buellistic
Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ryker77:

Per your post Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 03:40 pm:

QUOTE: Plus the last time I went to a HD dealership I was told that the buell frame dosen't require balanced rims! even though the manuals calls for balancing.

When it come to BUElls the HARLY-DAVIDSON DEALERS are "BRAIN DEAD" ...

"ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS THINGS IN THE WORLD IS A HARLEY-DAVIDSON TECHNICIAN WORKING ON A BUELL !!!"

In BUELLing
LaFayette
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

few of the manuals I've seen are written for the first-time DIY guy, sadly --

that said, doing so adds greatly to the expense of writing the manual, as the degree of detail can easily double or triple over that of a manual written for a level of assumed knowledge --

HD manuals are, in my experience, very well done factory manuals -- Hayes and Clymer are generally much better for first timer DIY guys, but the expenze of creating such a work means that they are only done for models that have a very large base from which to draw sales -- in the past, they've not addressed Buells for just that reason --

if you take your time, though, the Factory books are pretty good -- read the procedure through a time or three before actually starting, anbd you can forstall alot of troubles . . . . digi-cams are great, too, to remind you of things like wire routing and the like during assembly
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