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Captainplanet
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.redneckengineering.com/allen_mayes.htm
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Hanses25
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kinda looks cool!!! I would put some more black paint on the engine myself....
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Buell_892
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think it looks horrible actaully.. IMO
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Chainsaw
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Interesting bike. I have a little different picture in my head of a 'bobber".

www.suckerpucnhsallys.com

I really like some of the SPS bikes sans apehangers of course...
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Light_keeper
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

www.suckerpunchsallys.com

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Oneway
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i like it !
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This works (maybe relocate the pegs though):
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Ftd
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some pics of the XB Mutant from biketoberfest:
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Kootenay
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK, you take a Buell XB...a bike with a state-of-the-art chassis, but somewhat antiquated engine architecture...and throw away the chassis. Am I the only one who wonders about this? If ya wanna make a chopper with a Sportster mill, why not start with a Sportster?
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Cyclonemaniac
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"If ya wanna make a chopper with a Sportster mill, why not start with a Sportster?"

I agree Kootenay. The big reason behind the Buell butchery is because you'd pay twice as much for a poochie Sporty motor, just because it says H/D on the side. I about cried a few weeks ago at a local dealer. A fellow came up to me and looked over my M2. I asked what kind of ride he had. He said he had an S1, but was getting ready to "chop it". Don't get me wrong, I would own a chopper or bobber but I wouldn't butcher a perfectly good Buell to get one. To me it's kinda like taking the engine and tranny out of a perfectly good Ford GT40 to build a street rod!


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Kootenay
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Cyclone, I didn't realize the Sporty engine was worth more...I came to Buell from the Japanese side of things, don't know much about the Harley "mystique."

Still, it does seem somehow wrong to me...I read an article in "Canadian Biker" magazine a while ago about a guy in Ontario who builds hardtail chopper Buells (says he's "improving" them!), and what really got me was a letter in the next issue from some reader raving about it...
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Buelltroll
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so you guys are saying this is better?....
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Cyclonemaniac
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

NOT!


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Buelltroll
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

indeed
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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Redneck 'Bobber' is built out of a catalogue. It's an exercise in marrying several parts together and I personally don't see it as much of a hand built custom. It's also an exercise in deep pockets so it disappoints when I see the rear brake line and battery housing held with cheap plastic cable ties.


The XB above scores because it's different, simple and looks like it was built with a lot of thought rather than a catalogue and a credit card. For example the rake is right and even with such a long rake the headlamp and bikini fairing work really well. Ugly but yet not ugly.

Rocket
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Johnb
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

for those of you that haven't seen this, cyclone w/ape bars..
cyclone w/ape bars
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Cyclonemaniac
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OH my God! Just when the nightmares had started to subside! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I saw that thing on Ebay.

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Buelltroll
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Actually the xb above was built using windows.
It's pure photoshop and in my opinion TOTALY FUGLY.
Can you image how crappy that thing would handle?
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Hanses25
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You guys are funny!!!!!!!! Whenever these choppers pop up on the board, some act as if these builders have broken the law or something.. Buells are built on the basis of cutting edge technology and engineering outside of the BOX..... and what these guys are doing is thinking outside of the box with regard to our awesome bikes, in reality.... What fun would motorcycling be if you couldn't customize your ride the way you wanted???? Plus it may add a few unused parts to eBay for all of us wheelie looping Buellers!!!
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Cyclonemaniac
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket, Dead on about the Redneck being a "catalog custom"! Then again, most of what I see being pawned off as custom bikes are just catalog built bikes. I'm not trying to diminish the effort of the builders, I just don't buy into the hype that they are real custom bikes. To me it takes more than a credit card and a catalog.


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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My sentiments entirely dude

HARD 'ED HOG

My first attempt at 19 years of age. No job, no money and no experience with Brit Iron but that thing flew in the quarter much to many peoples astonishment.

Rocket (ex Chopper Pilot}
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Tunes
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell philosophy, in part, is innovation, mass centralization and handling. I don't see this in any of the "so-called" Buell's shown. This isn't a chopper, bobber, or "sled" website so why would anyone who LIKES Buell's care. The bikes shown suck, period. And you know what they say about opinions.
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

She'd look better on the back of my XB anyway.



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Cyclonemaniac
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket, was that a Bonne with a rigid tail? Bet that's one you wish you had back.


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Kdan
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe there are so many chuckleheads crashing and looping their XBs, there's just a lot of cheap hardly used parts to use for the next chopper project. Gawd knows there are a lot of crashed Buell parts on E-bay.
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 01:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you have an XB case that has the swingarm mount torn off like my spare engine, that Redneck Mutant Bobber is within the possible uses for the spare engine. The case in mine is not repairable, but even with DaveS giving a good discount on the replacement cases, your still looking at tearing down the engine then rebuilding it with new cases, and that running roughly $1200 minimum unless someone wants to work for almost nothing labor wise.
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Charlieboy6649
Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd build one. I think it's sweet!
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Xgecko
Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 03:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been staring at that 66 Bobber on SPS for about a year now...but if I built a Bobber (and I will at some point) I want a Panhead or even better a Knucklehead. If you build a bike like that you need an engine that looks distinct.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stick a bigger tank on that SPS 66 Bobber....oh baby! Me likey!
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"To me it's kinda like taking the engine and tranny out of a perfectly good Ford GT40 to build a street rod! "

Bad analogy, and the Sporty engines do not cost more than the Buell engines. The entire Buell bike often sells for less than an entire Sportster bike does. Part of this is due to Sportster owners holding to their asking prices, if you want one you have to pay the price the owner is willing to settle for. I'm doing what I can in trying to stick with the asking prices for my Buells, but there's always someone out there at any moment in time who is willing to part with their equivalent or better condition Buell for sometimes thousands of dollars less than I'll part with mine for. If we all just held to our guns and refused to part with our Buells then, well, apart from probably never selling our Buells, there would be much less chopping of Buells to build customs with. Plus, in the "chopper/custom" world the Buells have that performance panache about them, they come with a reputation along with the name. A chopper/custom builder who uses a Buell to build from will sometimes have an ego-edge over the chopper/custom builder who builds using a Sportster as a base to build from.

Here's a 1966 Ford GT40 with an asking price of $65,000:
http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/0/3/81038803.htm

That is not something someone would part out to make a hotrod from.

Used Buells go for between $1,500-$4,000 for the 'tubers, a little more will get you an XB at current used bike prices. An engine alone, Buell or Sportster, will set you back $1,000-$3,000. At that price it make financial sense to buy a whole bike, use what you can, and sell the leftovers, if your initial goal is to build a custom/chopper.

YMMV. ; )
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