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Mountainrider
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 07:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Who carries them for the Buells?
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Several of our sponsors:
Dave Stueve at Appleton HD
Al Lighton at American Sports Bike
Matt at Trojan Horse
Tilley's
and probably quite a few others.
Two models that I know of are the Storz, which uses the Italian Ceriani damper and places it running fore and aft between a motor mount and the right front fork, and the German LSL which places the damper in a more protected place under the steering head.
There are other good dampers available, such as the Scott rotary and the Hyperpro, but I haven't seen Buell mounting kits for them yet.
Anyone know of any others?
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Ejkokko
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Americansportbike.com does

03-06 LSL Steering Damper

http://www.americansportbike.com/shop/media/images/product_detail/9048.jpg

and here is another one
http://www.americansportbike.com/shop/media/images/product_detail/9050.jpg
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Scitz
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What are some of the advantages to the under the steering head damper compared to the one mounted on the side. I have read some postings about the LSL under the steering head hitting the front fender at times. Has anyone with the LSL had problems with it hitting the front fender? I'm more concerned with the possible damage to the damper, not the fender.
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Buellin_ri
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the LSL and haven't had any problems.
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As I recall, the person who was experiencing that issue had something mounted upside down.
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Dano_12s
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Storz. I had mine on xb9r+xb12s+now on xb12x[had to get the 56mm clamp from Storz].
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Chickenhauler
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hyper pro has them for the buell now. havnt tried it yet.but i love there springs.much better than stock.
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Surveyor
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why would you fit a steering damper to the best handling bike in the world?.........beats me....unless you're into bling.....or need more weight on the front end.
Seriously unless you drop the front right height to the point where it becomes unstable there is (in my opinion) no, other than cosmetic, reason to fit a steering damper.
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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the LSL in stock.
Save you 10%
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Midknyte
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Handling point agreed.

Aside from that, it oughta help if one came down off centerline from a wheelie...
Correct me if I am wrong...
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Xbolt12
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Seriously unless you drop the front right height to the point where it becomes unstable there is (in my opinion) no, other than cosmetic, reason to fit a steering damper."

Because someday you might find you need it....
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Mckennaxb12r
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Got a STORZ on my xb12r. It makes a difference at high speeds. You can feel the difference with the damper on and off with the steering shaking a bit. With the damper on the steering is rock solid! After having the steering damper, I honestly would not cruise without one. Just my $219.00 cents worth.
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Cruisin
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You should not have any shake at speed without a steering damper - if you do it means that your steering head bearings are bad/torqued incorrectly, or that your tires are improperly balanced/worn. The steering damper bandaids this, but you still have the problem.

The steering damper is great for sudden potholes which might throw you into a tank slapper, or as Midknyte said, if you ever come down with the steering off of center from a wheelie...but nobody does those, right?

The issue arose with the LSL damper because of two things - one person had the mount in upside down, causing it to be too close (and they must have been hitting some MAJOR potholes). The other is that you have to drop the forks in the triple tree slightly to get a flat surface for the fork clamp to bolt on to. One person didn't want to do that as it changes the geometry slightly and as a result the mount is lower.

I did it and it still handles great...
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Walt221
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I run the Hyperpro front mount damper. I've used several different kinds in the past,and it's the only one I'll use now. You can get it in either active or non-active. Also, the adjustments actually work. You can find out more at:

www.racingmotorcycles.com or
www.hyperprousa.com
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi Walt,
the only problem with the one you use is that will interfere with the wiring of the street models.
Hyperpro don't make a fitting kit for their damper, and you may have clearance issues with the piggyback reservoir on a road bike too.
We've found the LSL ones to be very good for the money, and have just fitted one to the Uly as well.
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Buell_892
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i dont even really see the need for one.. IMO
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Cowtown
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does anyone make a radial damper for a Buell XB?
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Walt221
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Trojan,

You may be right about the clearances on a road bike. I run a minimal harness so thanks for adding that clarification.

I did get my mounting kit from Rich at Innovative, not from Hyperpro.

I've never seen the one you're talking about. Do you have a photo for all to see?
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Trojan
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've never seen the one you're talking about. Do you have a photo for all to see?

This is the LSL one, which fits under the lower triple tree using a modified main isolator bolt as the mount for the damper body. They now do it as a kit for the 2005 on models with a 56mm fork clamp.



Please note that the instructions do suggest maounting the damper bracket the other way round to that shown. On the Ulysses however I found this way to fit better.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Matt,
When mounted that way on the other XB's, the damper clamp could hit the front fender. Does that not occur on the Uly at full suspension compression? I was about to fit one on mine this weekend.

Al
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Trojan
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi Al,
Glad to see that you managed to get back from Florida OK. Hope your vacation wasn't spoiled too much.

I haven't given it a really good test yet, but it appears to have enough clearance even with the increased travel. I found that fitting it the 'correct' way round brought the damper rod into contact with the left side scoop on full right lock (I have metal grilles across the front of the air scoops).
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Xbolt12
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Walt,

I run the same on my street Firebolt. It was a major pain to install and it took quite a bit of harness and horn mods to get the clearance, but it was worth it. Let the naysayers continue, but the improvement in stability has to be felt to be believed and there are no adverse affects...
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Xbolt12
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Unless you are a trials rider on the street...
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Wags
Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Added a Scotts damper to my R1 and dropped 8-9 seconds off my lap times.
Bought an 06 12Scg 2 weeks ago and under hard braking or leaned over in a turn it feels like the front wants to wash out. A damper is in my near future.
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